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Look now, look now,
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You can see them debating big on Insta and on YouTube.
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But when it comes to yourself, you lose the overview exactly, you now.
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Outwardly crooked, false, transparent, yet de facto impulsive.
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They bend the truth and filter it all wrong, they go now.
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Look at it now!
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The double standard shines brilliantly in the perfect ring light.
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What is wrong with others must be right with you.
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Just look closely!
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Look at it now!
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You build a construct that your image just likes.
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and make their own little world out of impulses. Look at it now!
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Hallihallo and welcome,
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Dear Friends of the Exquisite
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Or the bad taste.
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Hello to Sasha!
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Hello Sarah!
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Well, how are you?
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Well, how are you?
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It's all right now. It was a bit warm the days.
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Oh, yeah. I felt like a bunch of butter in the sun.
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Not just the sun. It was more like living in a hot air fryer.
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Yes, in an incubator.
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Incubator, not to say.
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Oh, no, please don't. It reminds me of the Aldi eggs.
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Greetings! All those eggs! Greetings!
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Yes, yes!
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We hope, dear spectators, you are well and you have strapped on
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for the new series of self-creators.
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Oh yeah!
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But before we get started, let's get to our Call to Action.
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If you like what you see, then subscribe to us and
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give us a like, comment, turn on the bell, but then please on everything and not on personalized.
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And if you want, you can share the whole thing and of course don't forget the hype.
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Thanks to you, we have already made it into the rankings one or the other time.
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Yes, even sort of top 20, top 10.
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Exactly.
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Maybe we can do it again.
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Thumbs are pressed.
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Thank you very much for your support.
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Then we'd be at the housemaker's now.
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We have considered that we will go live more or less spontaneously in loose order and for the maintenance of parasocial relationships.
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That's always very important.
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That's right.
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We also need to connect with the community, we've heard.
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Yes, that is a very important point.
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Yes, and we will announce this on Instagram and stop over the post area,
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The community button on YouTube.
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Exactly.
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This can sometimes be longer lead time, but it can also sometimes be relatively spontaneous.
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Exactly, just stop very spontaneously on unspecified dates.
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You may go live three times in a week.
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You may not be able to go live for five weeks.
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We don't want to sit there a fixed window,
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Just as we want and have time.
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Yes, it depends, so lust and mood.
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Mood and lust, especially time.
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How stressful is it right now? Do you have a lot of dates and things like that?
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And then you have to see if you can put it in there.
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There will definitely be a section in live format.
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And that's pretty much, we're not commenting on unreleased comments.
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And that's our live reaction to it.
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And before all the trolls are happy or excited again,
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We will only comment on those where we feel like it, not all of them.
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It's our channel.
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That's my channel, that's my rule, and I decide that.
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Yeah, that's right.
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And by the way, our live streams take place either on YouTube,
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But they can also take place at TikTok.
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But we will announce this in advance.
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Exactly.
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Yes, yes.
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We have the self-actors' file today, don't we?
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Yes, yes.
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And somehow we have such a focus, focal point, Bernie?
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Yeah, sort of.
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That's the older gentleman who usually sits smoking on the balcony or something?
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Yes, from Berlin.
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From Berlin. Such a Brumberberni.
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Exactly.
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Okay.
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It's been a bit hot lately.
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And somehow the whole thing has a history like that.
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Yes, all this has its origin somewhere.
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Yes, so if you really broke that down, you'd say you've split tips between tips, and that's how you do it among different creators.
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Would you agree?
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I would definitely vote for it. I just drank a delicious sip of my
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Apple shrimp. I also have to say that it tastes very good. Yeah, I guess she's tempered, too. Yes,
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I'm not getting any warmth for the manufacturer, but it's definitely delicious.
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Such an ice-cold apple peel.
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[Laughter]
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Yeah, no, I basically see it the same way.
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This has been a spiral of provocations, of small injuries,
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which various content creators have repeatedly pushed themselves,
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They get excited and one reacts to the other.
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Yes, yes.
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And then they react again.
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And that was already a very nice escalation spiral and a very nice spectacle, which now
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Especially in the last few weeks, let's say.
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the respective channels.
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It's mostly about Maren, Da Vinci, TV treasure chest.
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and Bernie, Bernie's night café.
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Those were the main players. Of course, one must not forget the Klotzbuster. He also played a role there, but we will not comment on the Klotzbuster topic, because we have nothing to do with it and do not want to classify it.
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Nevertheless, this story and what happened because everyone reacted to it, of course, already plays a chronological role, which is why you only mention it now, but do not address the topic.
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Yeah, where do we start?
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Somehow the origin lies at the end of 24, at the beginning of 25, but there have always been tricks and small problems before.
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You mean the real origin?
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Yes, that's the real origin.
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Because now we are talking about a period that is longer than the last few weeks.
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Yes, the real origin.
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Okay, let's take another leap back in time, folks.
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So late 24, early 25 and there it is, there was a lot of content around Rebecca Reusch
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They talked about it in livestreams, talked about it in videos and theories
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put up and actually comment on everything that somehow came in the media in the smallest detail,
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documented and developed theories.
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And content made.
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But we're mainly talking about Berni, aren't we?
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Yes, but there was also the TV treasure tour.
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Da Vinci was there and you didn't see him. Somehow everyone.
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Yes, everyone had this topic on their screen.
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We're in the True Crime Bubble and that's where the topic was.
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Although I think Maren certainly had this as a topic,
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Maren hasn't been doing true crime for so long.
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I don't know.
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But I have …
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I didn't actually go that far back.
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No, but with Marin, I have to be honest now, I'm still not a big fan of her.
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I didn't think much about their chronology of content, how far back that goes.
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In any case, we are now in spring/summer 25 and there are already the first strikes.
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You have just dealt with Bernie Content on the side of the TV chat chest.
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There were then also in the other formats that Bernie has made, so accusations of
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I'm not bringing back any find, I'm throwing away the bottles.
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There were accusations of food waste and that was always in the shipments.
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and on the television tour Sticheleien in the direction of Bernie.
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I mean, that's no different today.
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No, that's right.
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But what is very different today and was actually already at that time, the
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Bernie is not a lamb of innocence.
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He also shoots back very well.
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That has to be said for the sake of fairness.
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And it also provokes a lot.
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Yes, in a passive, aggressive way.
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It must be said that Bernie reacted to this extremely irritatingly.
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He reacted with quasi
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I don't look at this shit and stop.
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Copyright strikes against Frank.
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The TV nurse.
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But you're already talking about this year, aren't you?
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No, we're still 25.
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Really? Okay, I hadn't been able to do that before.
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Then almost like June, July 25 there was the break of Bernie with the Da Vinci.
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And it was kind of a time kick, they did things together and that was very popular in the bubble.
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And then suddenly from today to now, immediately, the Da Vinci went his own way.
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Yes, the Da Vinci was actually more of a content creator in itself anyway, at least that's how I had the impression last year.
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Yes, there were things like just that there were questionable methods attached, practiced.
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What, I didn't understand the accusation.
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Yeah, but I didn't mean that. I meant that Da Vinci was actually more of a person who did his own thing.
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So without guests, without other content creators.
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He has his own channels, he has everything so segmented.
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So that one is such a live format, real talk format.
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Then he once has such a football, such a sports format and I don't know how many formats he actually has and how many channels.
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I somehow lose track of myself.
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Yes and then we are now almost the end of 25, the beginning of 26 and then the Fabian thing started, so with the murdered boy.
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And since Rebekah Reusch, which was a great pulling horse at Bernie before, somehow since the investigations no longer work like that, the whole hype dragged off.
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I think that's how it went for seven years.
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And yes, you just realized you have to find something new.
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And then they focused more on the Fabian case.
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What's interesting is, Bernie said I'm not interested in the Fabian case.
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And Maren is very strong and has done quite a lot.
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And then you just realized that there were already such tricks on the part of Bernie.
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And then we're at the point where Jutta comes into play,
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Because sometimes she also made a moderation shop at Marin.
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Okay.
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And then we are almost at the starting point of the current conflict.
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Yes, but before that I would like to take a break, because that was a bit too fast for me.
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Yeah, but we can't go through every station there in the last three or four years.
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No, we can't, but I'd like to add something else.
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Frank has also made content the Fabian case.
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I also believe with Maren one or the other time.
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Yeah, but Maren did a lot, a lot more.
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Of course, that was him, Maren's steppe horse, too, without evaluating her work now.
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It's about this, before this thing came about with Jutta, it was already in the last few years.
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A little more heated for weeks.
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Actually, we have to go back to explain the whole thing, to the month of March, to which
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Trial between Sabrina and Impulsiva and Frank Butterman from the TV treasure tour.
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Then there was the physical attack. There is, of course, the presumption of innocence to the detriment of Frank Butterman.
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Or life partner / man Frank Barthelmann is said to have physically attacked.
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And the whole thing has highlighted great reactions in the media.
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This has also led to a change for us.
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And we talked about it very extensively.
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While we were big critics before, which we are still, by the way, but
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Not just critics anymore.
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Was it so that we dealt exclusively with the file Flattermann,
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But since we already had plans to expand the whole thing.
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Of course, this event in court was a decisive reason for deciding that:
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we made this change earlier and yes also with Frank after this act
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They went into the exchange.
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And one way or another, I say, over time also one or the other more private
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Exchange had, where you almost get to know the content creator privately
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I've had one or two conversations.
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Of course, it was often about YouTube topics and so on, but then you exchange ideas.
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In any case, there was then with us the file of the self-actors, because we also the
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We believe that other content creators make mistakes, and we also make mistakes.
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And each of the content creators actually contributes their part.
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Yes, it is a great dynamic.
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Exactly.
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In this tiny bubble from YouTube.
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Exactly.
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And while we have distanced ourselves from the act of violence, Bernie has us back then.
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In a multiple, I say, ejection of his love said in his livestreams,
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how shit we are and that we are to blame with our file
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Flattermann, which we made that the Frank was physically attacked.
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Yes, because we've been doing this for years. You forgot that. We've been digging this for years,
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This psychic violence is practiced in Gwafrankos. Yes, but we were only in May or June or even
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In July of last year, I got into this whole topic. We had with
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this Wappel never something to do and are over calendar wool at all on the TV chest
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became aware. But you know the story, if you have heard our other consequences,
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I don't want to go into that anymore.
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The interesting thing is, the Bernie got us there back then.
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properly disassembled and held responsible,
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While we had already taken our position.
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We had also tried because I think that's interesting
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Let's take a look at Bernie's character.
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We also exchanged letters with Bernie before this act.
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We had even talked to each other on the phone.
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Suddenly this day of action came, where we were actually in good exchange with Bernie and there
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It was never a conflict or anything like that.
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We had virtually positioned ourselves and clearly spoke out against violence and the Bernie
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As I said, he started to take us apart in his live streams and we were almost jointly responsible.
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Made for what happened to Frank. We thought it was unfair because, of course,
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it's these files that we made, they were pointed, but they were mainly
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It's actually about Frank's content and things we've been criticizing.
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Now you can say that one or the other was over it, we see it the same way. We would
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Don't do that in hindsight, either. But we didn't have those malicious intentions.
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We never wanted anything to happen to Frank.
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No, with us it was just clear, if we are sharp, we have to reckon with it,
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that we also get tips back.
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Exactly, so to speak, the normal "beef" almost takes place, which was also the case.
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We distributed our tips, we got tips back, that was all okay.
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But we had nothing at all to do with this act and this trial.
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So that was actually pretty unfair what Bernie blew out of it.
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But even though he made this public and we could have reacted to it in public right away,
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We were just looking for a private conversation with Bernie.
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Exactly.
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And I sent him written messages, I sent him voice messages
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And he hosted us.
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He read it, it didn't interest him.
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Instead, he even felt inspired, I think, to push us even further.
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Dismantle in the Lives.
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And then, of course, it was enough for us at some point and then, of course, we did it.
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also understandably addressed in the podcast, because the Bernie to a private exchange
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was not ready.
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As I said, we were in a good relationship with Bernie before this act and had
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Never a problem.
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This is very interesting for the dynamics of understanding how Bernie is as a human being.
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We had given him the opportunity to express himself, he didn't want to.
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The interesting thing is, under this podcast episode, which we then made, he even commented,
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that we are right about it.
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That was kind of like that.
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Yeah, but that was all.
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He doesn't listen to all that.
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You know that.
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This, of course, is said in retrospect.
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And then he was probably pointed out by the bubble,
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That he was there, and the comment was gone.
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It was also the commentary of Boris Brandt, who also commented, who found the intro song so great from the file of the self-actors.
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Which is also very interesting, because just because he likes an intro, it has nothing to do with the content of the video.
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The question is, why did this comment suddenly have to be withdrawn?
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Questions about questions.
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And then we come to a point that I also think is essential,
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Which we will also discuss in more detail in the following.
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Who you surround yourself with as a content creator and with what others
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Content creators and bubbles have to do,
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What might have an impact on your own behavior?
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Exactly, but like I said, it was the trial.
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Then this thing was with us.
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And then everything was actually still good, at least according to Bernie between him and Frank.
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In recent years, however, there have always been slight peaks that have been sold.
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That's what I pointed out in my summary.
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Then there was the underpants gate, then the thing with the minced meat and
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Oh, there were so many tips that there were just where you could say, yes, Bernie just stupidly told things that are just critical of other people.
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and Frank stops in his formats or even now in the breakfast club, some say dead club
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or I don't know, Happy Cadaver, to comment on that with a tip. I mean, if I
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go there and buy at 40 degrees a kilo of chopped, it is through half the city and Berlin is huge,
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Karre, I don't have to be surprised if I do this in the evening, that the meat has a sting away.
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Especially if I don't have a cooler bag or something.
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Exactly, this is really very sensitive, i.e. minced meat. Yes, and there you have to reckon,
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That there are comments, especially if you are at night somehow at 1 o'clock
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or 2 o'clock stop by a kilo of meatballs.
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Yes, in any case it is. What I wanted to do, of course, there was always Frank's side.
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and on the other hand, it must also be said that with Bernie in this
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There has been a change since the trial. That's what I wanted to get out of,
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which I believe is actually the root of evil, in quotation marks, but that is
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My opinion, I can have it too. In my opinion, it was so, the Bernie has yes
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Not only negatively expressed towards us, but of course also critically Impulsiva alias Sabrina
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opposite and Sabrina was all displeased, which is why she entered into private exchanges with Bernie
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It's gone. There were then things on the part of Impulsiva, I think, then in their opinion
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Bernie made one or two concessions.
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Yes, one must also say that there was always a rapprochement between Bernie and Frank
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and at some point in the Discord of Sabrina also appeared, such statements as,
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That he wants Frank and Bernie to have testicular cancer and stuff like that. And you just have to say,
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That these people are good with each other for a while and then why are they
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no longer because one has said something that does not suit the other or because one
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He didn't say something the other wanted. And that's how it's been for years.
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Exactly, but in any case, the interesting stop, as I said, the Bernie said something,
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What the Sabrina is displeased with. The two have gone into exchange and have also
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Just like other content creators. According to Impulsiva, there is also a group,
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where content creators have joined forces, where the Frank is not part of it.
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But not Frank.
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Yeah, that's right. We don't, either, but that's logical.
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Yeah, but don't forget, we don't matter.
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Yes, of course. But we're just sorting it out.
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And in our opinion, it's just that this dynamic change actually took place
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Ever since Bernie surrounded herself with certain people. Frank's tops have been around for years.
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0:29:00 – 0:29:06
He was more likely to respond with humor. But I'd like to say it this way if you
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with certain people of a certain bubble who have a very firm opinion about a
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Frank, of course there is also stitching and rushing and people, that's the way it is.
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We were part of it ourselves.
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But that is no longer an opinion.
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This is obsessive hatred.
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That's right.
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And we never had those intentions in our podcast.
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We weren't radical enough for much. We were cunning, we were cunning, yes.
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But not to that extent.
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So Impulsiva feels really deep hatred against Frank and has a certain mindset,
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where she also has the expectation that all the people who surround themselves with her,
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They also share and represent this expectation.
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Or even if they aren't allowed to represent it completely, but don't say publicly, I disagree.
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Because that's something she dislikes very much.
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These are our experiences with her.
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Exactly.
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And that's exactly the problem.
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Once you understand the dynamics and structures of this bubble,
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then you understand that the Bernie is now part of a group where he is valued for words.
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If he allows comments from the, let's say, individual comment writers who also belong to the bubble,
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Those who are very critical, then the Bernie is cool.
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If the Bernie allows it all, if the Bernie shoots Frank, then they think it's really great.
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Then they flood him with compliments and support him wherever possible.
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That was no different with us.
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We also got this content love bombing
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of some people, this bubble, as long as we've done that, of course,
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What people wanted to hear.
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0:31:14 – 0:31:20
We were constantly getting criticism, yes, you should still have this, this and that
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0:31:20 – 0:31:27
to say so. Yes, we could have done more. Yes, you should have doxed this and that,
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0:31:27 – 0:31:33
to disclose. And then we said, folks, we don't feel like legal
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0:31:33 – 0:31:38
Consequences and we also see things a bit differently in the arrangement. But this
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0:31:38 – 0:31:44
It was something all these people didn't want to hear. As long as you work and act,
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0:31:44 – 0:31:50
You're good at this bubble. And that's exactly the position Bernie has right now. And I don't know,
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0:31:50 – 0:31:56
whether he is aware of this and whether he has lost his moral compass somewhere a bit.
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Because how can it be that I criticize certain things in other people, but they
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Live by yourself. The bad thing is that as long as he shoots Frank, he stops natural
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Get support. And that's the problem. And Bernie, I'll tell you this now,
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That's my personal opinion, think carefully about who you surround yourself with. Because if it is too
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0:32:27 – 0:32:33
Legal disputes will come, which is not unlikely, now for example also
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0:32:33 – 0:32:40
Frank and all that. These people won't hold this trial for you.
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No, they won't fight trenches, no.
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0:32:43 – 0:32:49
Yeah, they won't. They won't jump into the breach for you either. It's a Sabrina,
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0:32:49 – 0:32:55
where she publicly says that she is behind LaVan and yes also with LaVan at the
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0:32:55 – 0:32:58
The trial will be attended by Thanius, who did not come.
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Yeah, but that was just a joke.
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Even though it was announced so big.
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But it was just a joke.
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0:33:05 – 0:33:09
And in poetry LaVan was so much supported.
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Where is Sabrina's support now?
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So I don't see in public, I don't see either,
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She's publicly jumping into the breach for her.
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How are you?
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Because she was previously LaVan's greatest critic,
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Which got the whole game rolling.
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0:33:25 – 0:33:29
But there we have it again with the topic
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Debt shift and no self-reflection.
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They just don't talk about it anymore.
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In any case, the support is not there.
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In Lawan, the mob is then accused of feeding.
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0:33:44 – 0:33:45
Is that okay for them too?
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Or is it someone else?
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It doesn't matter who gets in the car.
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That's right.
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I don't.
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Exactly. As long as you always express yourself positively towards impulsive.
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This is essential. And Bernie, I can tell you one thing as soon as you're critical again.
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You will have points and you will lead them against Impulsiva, you will be very, very fast
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Unfortunately, Impulsiva can't handle criticism at all. Yes, this one comes to me
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0:34:21 – 0:34:28
Picture in the head like this, dropped like a hot potato. Exactly. And as soon as this moment reaches
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You don't have support from the bubble anymore, because then you displease everyone.
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0:34:33 – 0:34:42
Because I would say that there are Discord servers, certain structures. The word
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Propaganda may go too far, but I would say it is being instrumentalized.
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That's why we delete the word propagated times from memory, but people will
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in any case instrumentalized and guided and people also know exactly when they
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0:35:13 – 0:35:16
If you don't follow it anymore, you're down below.
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0:35:16 – 0:35:22
Yes, you can see the list of former companions.
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0:35:22 – 0:35:28
And many former companions have actually joined in the last few weeks.
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months, not just weeks, months that told us stories,
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what you have experienced more impulsively, how it goes on and why you also
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do not dare to speak publicly, because Impulsiva has a lot of information about certain
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0:35:47 – 0:35:53
People who are afraid of being taken apart by the media
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or to become the new Frank 2.0, because they themselves were part of the structure of Impulsiva,
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You know how it works, and that's the problem. And Bernie, that's all
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0:36:12 – 0:36:16
Our opinion, that is also a very important point. Yes, one opinion can be said, we have learned that.
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0:36:16 – 0:36:25
Exactly. You will also get under the wheels if you continue to stay in this bubble. You should
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Return to your own origins, to your own moral values, and to yourself.
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0:36:33 – 0:36:38
Think about what you are responding to and what you are not responding to.
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0:36:38 – 0:36:44
Expectations of the community. You must not forget yourself,
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It doesn't matter if it's content about pros and cons, about this whole topic,
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Whether you are positively extreme, negatively extreme. Beef clicks, that's clear to me as well
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Channel operator. But the question is, don't you lose yourself and the channel?
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You're losing what you originally built. Not because he's being confined,
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0:37:10 – 0:37:16
I don't mean that, but the origins of Bernis Nachtcafé, they were other times,
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They were much more positive times, like this whole smear and incitement campaign,
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The ones you drive online.
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That's right.
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Of course, at this point we also have to talk about misconduct.
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As I said, Bernie, we know that you are part of a structure where you also have a
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There is a certain expectation on you,
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But there are still things, you have to decide for yourself in the end,
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0:37:55 – 0:38:02
What you do. And no one else is responsible for it, not even any other content creator,
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No people from the bubble. And I'm talking, like I said, about content you're talking about.
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0:38:07 – 0:38:14
Giving. And then we actually come to the main topic, to the main fault,
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What have you done with one of many?
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0:38:19 – 0:38:29
Yes, I said before that Jutta once in a while at Maren's
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0:38:29 – 0:38:40
had taken over moderation tasks and in one of the last live streams,
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0:38:40 – 0:38:50
I don't know the date at all, she had taken over the moderation for the chat
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0:38:50 – 0:39:01
in the livestream and there it was then just about a very controversial person, who in the past
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0:39:01 – 0:39:11
This is probably due to the relativization of Nazi crimes and, above all, to the
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0:39:11 – 0:39:24
Corona vaccinations. And then a user named Fingerweg showed that this
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0:39:24 – 0:39:31
There is a problem and you can't support it. Because Maren had
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0:39:31 – 0:39:38
in one of the livestreams, there were two pieces where this person was with the chat, stop also a
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0:39:38 – 0:39:49
proclaimed fundraising campaign to allow this person to buy a new graphics card,
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0:39:49 – 0:39:55
so that he can create his content again at a higher level and, above all, faster,
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0:39:55 – 0:40:03
Which I think he drives out on TikTok. I don't know that exactly. I've been with the
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Person still not great busy, because that's a swamp to me,
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0:40:08 – 0:40:14
I don't want to go in so great. In any case, I would like to say at this point,
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This person is very controversial and therefore controversial.
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And this man took place at Maren on the canal.
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Falsely, because of what do you call this guilt again?
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Debt of contact.
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Contact debt, exactly because Jutta happened to moderate on that day.
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Jutta was wrongly associated with this.
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But before we go into that, let me say one more thing about Maren.
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Because Maren also made a reaction video because of the whole topic.
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Maren, you are very much responsible for who is allowed to take place on your channel and for whom you
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0:41:06 – 0:41:13
Donation campaigns make, for whom you collect donations, to whom you give a stage on your
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Channel, and you're right to be criticized for that. It is also interesting that
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You say in statements that you don't care.
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Yeah, he's 11 years old. Yeah, what's in the room and it's none of your business.
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Yes, you already have some responsibility for that. And if you
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A person like that already takes place on your channel, which in principle
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It's free, but don't make any donations and so on. And if you do, then you have to
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you can stand the fact that you are then in the criticism, because you just don't care about this
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Distancing people and even supporting them. This is a valid criticism that the community
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Which is opposite you. And there you should also show a certain insight, because, dear Maren,
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You're also critical of other content creators. And if you do this
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If we can't do it ourselves, then we also move in the area of double standards.
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As is always the case with content creators. But you have to say that. So you get for it already
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rightly criticize. That is our opinion.
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How can we say? So if you don't know how to get in there, that's
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It's bad enough. But then I find, after it has been shown, how
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Problem this person is, then say, yes what interest me old
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Camels? That was all eleven years ago. Yes, it may have been 11 years ago.
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It was, but that doesn't relativize the fact that he flew from Germany,
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He is now living abroad and has flown here before the judiciary, after
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He was in danger of going to jail here. And then they say,
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I don't care, it makes good content.
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Yes, you have to know for yourself where you are positioning yourself and how flexible the moral compass is.
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You know, nowadays people are just morally liquid, not liquid, oh, morally liquid.
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We find this very questionable.
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Yes, that's when I think of myself primarily as journalistic, critical,
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It is questionable if you give these people such a space.
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Exactly. And then get upset about it again,
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Some people don't like it so much.
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Yes, many don't like it.
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I agree with these people on this point.
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Sorry, but it is.
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In any case, there was then yes
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A video of Bernie in which he
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Yes, one
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Jutta, the moderator,
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The Super Moderator at Frank's
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asks if she thinks it's okay to support this controversial person,
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because Maren is in contact with Frank and Frank is the channel owner of the TV treasure tour
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And she's the moderator on Frank's channel. Thus, it has almost a contact debt,
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What's happening at Maren on the canal?
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Only that Jutta, in my opinion, could not know at all,
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Who is this user anyway?
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Even if they knew who that user was,
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She is the presenter, not the content creator.
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The argument, which quasi Maren claims for himself,
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How am I supposed to know, it's all been so long,
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It can also be applied to Jutta.
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How is she supposed to know? It's been so long.
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Yes, and on her probably much more, if she has only moderated once or twice at Maren.
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What the hell does Jutta have to do with this? I don't understand.
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Or is it just again that it was both conjectures to sting Jutta,
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Because he actually wants to work one thing over Jutta Frank.
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That's right. Now one can say yes, the content of the video would have been yes, evil, evil Jutta, what did you do there?
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Didn't you ask yourself who this is? And why didn't you draw consequences and almost pull the plug
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Have you played your role as a moderator?
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But that was not the case. The matter becomes much more interesting because there is this Nazi reproach, i.e. the crimes of the Nazi era.
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have decided to generate a preview image,
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where you see Jutta crying,
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and keep parts of the entrance gate of Auschwitz
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with the inscription "Work makes free",
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Weeping children, I think, in the background.
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And that didn't go well with the audience,
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on his side and with other people.
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Not only has it not been well received,
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It is absolutely unconstitutional and cannot be done.
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Yes, in any case, it was just like that,
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It's from the circles of its moderators.
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There was headwind and disbelief,
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that you work with this visual language
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There is almost no empathy for the Holocaust and its victims to use as a weapon.
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To wipe out Jutta one.
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That's right. So you see, I'm really … So first of all, I have to think about what I'm saying,
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On the other hand, it shocks me when I think about it.
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How can these horrific crimes, which have taken place, really, really,
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really, really, really one of the worst crimes that ever happened,
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how can one take such a subject, such a subject, to denounce Jutta,
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to build such a strategy to defame Jutta?
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How disgusting, that's my opinion, how disgusting is that?
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He chose the worst he could find, felt,
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To be as bad as possible for Jutta
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In this context, it relativizes the crimes of the Nazi era.
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Yes, above all, he accuses her, because it is in front of a...
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There was a video where you just thanked Jutta
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And there were tears flowing from her.
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And then she is accused of shedding tears because of a YouTube beef,
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There is no empathy for the victims of the Holocaust.
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or for the victims of coronavirus.
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Yes, yes. And that, dear Bernie,
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It's a mess and a scandal.
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And I can only hope that's my personal opinion,
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That you will get a penalty for this and that the courts will hopefully decide correctly.
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Also what an image damage you cause a jutta with it.
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Yes, especially reputational damage in any case, if you set such a thing.
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You don't think about it.
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0:49:48 – 0:50:00
I think it's bad on so many levels. I just lack the words for it. So really,
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0:50:00 – 0:50:08
how can you use a YouTube beef that you have with "no matter who" to create such underground,
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0:50:08 – 0:50:17
To resort to rhetorical, unfair means and thus even to the victims of the Nazi period of my life.
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In my opinion, it is almost ridiculous in this context.
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0:50:25 – 0:50:31
Now you have to say, this video was then only 10, maybe 15 minutes online.
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0:50:31 – 0:50:37
Then he took it down himself, then makes another video, where he
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0:50:37 – 0:50:44
I apologize for this harsh imagery, but this kind of
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0:50:44 – 0:50:53
Intensified attacks on Jutta. That makes the whole thing even more abstruser.
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0:50:53 – 0:50:59
Yeah, because there's a real excuse for that, I mean there's a real excuse for that in my eyes, too.
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0:50:59 – 0:51:06
No excuses, but he's not even trying. Instead
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0:51:06 – 0:51:18
He just puts the blame on it. What is this? Where is self-reflection? Where is the insight? He would have
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0:51:18 – 0:51:23
I didn't take the video down from my own point of view, because now we're honest.
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0:51:23 – 0:51:31
If you take something, there is a rage, but then it is still processed. You make a thumbnail,
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0:51:31 – 0:51:37
Hasn't it somehow clicked in a moment that it goes too far and completely
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0:51:37 – 0:51:41
Is it cross-border? I don't think so. It's not just taking the shot,
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that the preview image generates, but you have to tell the artificial intelligence exactly,
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0:51:48 – 0:51:55
What you want. Yes, so there was the hard intention behind it and above all
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0:51:55 – 0:52:08
This shows the attention economy. It's perfect. Main thing I'm tall, loud and hau
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0:52:08 – 0:52:14
Again, good on it. You can see this in recent previews. Large letters,
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0:52:14 – 0:52:24
strong contrast, eye-catching colors, yellow font on black background, black font on
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0:52:24 – 0:52:31
Red background. The main thing is that and all that, that jumps a formal face in the eyes.
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And that's exactly how this picture was constructed and that was deliberately so rammed.
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By the way, I would like to say at this point, you have to say something positive,
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Thank you very much to the viewers who have sent us this video material, which has been removed from the channel,
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0:52:53 – 0:52:57
provided and sent by e-mail. These were multiple letters,
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so that we can address this as well. Many, many, many thanks for that. But you also have to
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0:53:09 – 0:53:13
They said they would have been happy if they hadn't seen it.
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How did you feel about it when you looked at it?
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Very bad. We had already criticized Jutta one or the other time, but to portray a person in this way and then also in this context.
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I had goosebumps all over my body. Above all, I had to think back to my school days.
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I mean, you can tell that.
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We also had history lessons and we had a very ambitious teacher.
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0:53:57 – 0:54:05
And among other things we had as a guest, who unfortunately no longer lives, Alex Deutsch, a survivor,
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0:54:05 – 0:54:17
the Nazi period, which was also housed in the concentration camp, but which, thank God, survived and
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still had the number tattooed and who also said that this belongs to his
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0:54:23 – 0:54:27
Live for it, he would never let it go away.
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We had heard a lecture and he spoke in a broken voice.
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This man was ancient.
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I can't tell you how old he was at the time.
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That was just too long ago.
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I was still a teenager.
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But this man told us in a broken voice,
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supported by his wife, by his life story and also by the pictorial material,
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0:54:54 – 0:55:00
That he brought there, so we all had goosebumps and cried.
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We also took our class on a trip to a concentration camp.
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And that, too, was very, very bad for me.
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My breath is stubborn,
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when I saw, for example, all these shoes
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0:55:15 – 0:55:20
I have seen from the people, from the children,
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All the barracks and these crimes and the gas chambers.
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Everything that happened there was so bad.
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I really don't understand, at any level, how to do something like that.
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can build in a video, especially because it is completely out of context
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0:55:47 – 0:55:59
Jutta has absolutely nothing to do with this. That was so unfair and so mean,
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0:55:59 – 0:56:03
I would have loved to have had Jutta in my arms.
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Yes, yes.
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0:56:03 – 0:56:09
And I don't want to imagine how Jutta is doing with it.
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0:56:09 – 0:56:20
I don't know how to come up with such an idea and I wonder where the responsibility is.
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0:56:20 – 0:56:28
pulls. On the one hand, as content creator Bernie takes responsibility himself and
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0:56:28 – 0:56:34
When we talk about contact guilt, what about the other content creators?
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0:56:34 – 0:56:41
They have something to do with Bernie. They should all be together, that's my opinion.
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0:56:41 – 0:56:46
distancing themselves and then not only because of contact guilt belong to such people,
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0:56:46 – 0:56:55
Those who do this are canceled. Point. Well, no, I can't. That's my opinion, too.
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0:56:55 – 0:57:04
opinion. I won't let them take me there. I think that's very, very bad. And as I said,
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0:57:04 – 0:57:10
This insight is still lacking to this day and of course it is then excited and mocks,
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0:57:10 – 0:57:16
That, of course, the TV-Shutstrew and -Tutor, that will be reacted to. I mean,
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0:57:16 – 0:57:20
Thank goodness legal action is being taken. Many people also have,
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0:57:20 – 0:57:27
He also worked with the police and
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0:57:27 – 0:57:27
Reported, also because of the thumbmail,
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0:57:27 – 0:57:32
Which I like very much because it is yes.
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0:57:32 – 0:57:35
unlawful. The exact word falls to me
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0:57:35 – 0:57:35
But just not one.
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It is a matter of constitutional protection.
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It is an anti-constitutional sign.
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Yes, just like in legal German
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I don't know, but you
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0:57:46 – 0:57:56
You know what I'm trying to get out of. That's why I think it's good and, above all, right that you should
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0:57:56 – 0:58:05
reported. And like I said, I hope he gets his sentence in court for that. And I hope
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0:58:05 – 0:58:12
that the image damage that Jutta has gotten there, that this can be absorbed. Because this is
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0:58:12 – 0:58:21
It's not easy when a person, you can criticize a person, but you can criticize a person like that.
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0:58:21 – 0:58:29
defamation, above all then also for no reason and not justified, is it still possible?
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0:58:29 – 0:58:38
So since we've been making YouTube, so in this regard also in the bubble, I thought yes
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0:58:38 – 0:58:42
It's always that we're really crazy.
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0:58:42 – 0:58:44
I've seen that it's all no longer
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0:58:44 – 0:58:47
It would be worth increasing. Yes, but such
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0:58:47 – 0:58:51
Shifting the boundaries and the good
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0:58:51 – 0:58:55
The taste and also the unspeakable
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0:58:55 – 0:58:57
I haven't experienced it yet. No, and also the
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0:58:57 – 0:58:57
Humanity.
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0:58:57 – 0:59:04
But that's my opinion.
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0:59:04 – 0:59:07
And there were people like
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For example, this couple?
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0:59:07 – 0:59:09
No, there's something else in between.
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0:59:09 – 0:59:13
There was also a livestream that day.
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0:59:13 – 0:59:16
from the television treasure tour,
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0:59:16 – 0:59:20
It's been three hours or so, I think.
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0:59:20 – 0:59:24
Wherever we had spoken
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And other people too.
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0:59:26 – 0:59:30
And where to stop Jutta as
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0:59:30 – 0:59:39
He was emotionally hurt. He also showed his injury. You have
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0:59:39 – 0:59:44
It is also easy to hear in the voice that this woman is really horrified that she is being
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0:59:44 – 0:59:54
accuses me of that. Yes, that's perfectly understandable. Yes, and that stopped and that was,
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0:59:54 – 1:00:04
the entire live was almost only out of it to show that this was a border shift,
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1:00:04 – 1:00:12
Which is not acceptable. Of course, there have also been spikes and many people have been in the
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1:00:12 – 1:00:20
comments, in the live chat her opinion on it said and the unanimous tenor had been,
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1:00:20 – 1:00:30
criticize. Yes, you can also see Maren critically, but this comparison with the Nazi crimes goes
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1:00:30 – 1:00:38
Not at all. This is an absolute red cloth and not just jutta,
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1:00:38 – 1:00:47
In fact, all of the survivors who may have lived during this time,
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1:00:47 – 1:00:59
their children, their children's children towards Jews, towards so many groups of people,
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1:00:59 – 1:01:06
I don't know if he really lacks that awareness of what he was saying.
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1:01:06 – 1:01:16
and how many people he hurt with such statements. I'll do something about it again
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say. But first comes the interview with this couple, what you just
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1:01:22 – 1:01:32
You mentioned. And that was Bridget and Mark. They helped Bernie, his
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1:01:32 – 1:01:42
Memorial day in Berlin, yes, to prepare, so the website, texts for posters, texts for
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1:01:42 – 1:01:50
to create the website, contact with the media and the press, especially with the
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1:01:50 – 1:02:03
BRR or RBB? I have no idea. Berlin-Brandenburg. How do I get to BRR?
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1:02:03 – 1:02:08
I don't know. Hello to Freud. Excuse me.
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1:02:08 – 1:02:19
And they told their story and their experience, which they had with the contact
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1:02:19 – 1:02:25
Bernie, that it wasn't all going well and that was just her description and her experiences,
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1:02:25 – 1:02:32
That's what you have to say. And then the story came to light that the Bridget
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was very seriously ill with cancer, then still had complications and then again severely
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1:02:41 – 1:02:47
I was sick and that Bernie wasn't interested in that. They also had to
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cancel her participation in the Memorial Day because, if I remember correctly, she probably had to go to the hospital.
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1:02:55 – 1:03:06
Yes, after there was a new finding, I think, in the lungs and also sepsis, so a severe inflammation.
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1:03:06 – 1:03:14
If there's anything we should say wrong at the point of classification, we're sorry, that's memory record now.
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1:03:14 – 1:03:20
Yes, above all it happened a lot and it was a lot of content and there are so many impressions,
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1:03:20 – 1:03:23
They're stuck on one. So please excuse that. In any case,
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1:03:23 – 1:03:28
Basically, you could not participate in the memorial day because you were sick.
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1:03:28 – 1:03:36
And Bernie had just bought a hotel in front of it, a quite cheap one, which is really amazing for
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1:03:36 – 1:03:42
Berlin and then was actually a radio station, no contact, nothing at all.
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You were wondering, why isn't there anything coming, why don't you get in touch?
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Yeah, that's sad somehow. I have to say, first of all, when I did the interview
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I had seen, I had first had the impression, but I emphasize first, that has changed later,
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1:04:01 – 1:04:05
Perhaps a wounded vanity speaks of it.
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1:04:05 – 1:04:07
That's what I thought.
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Look at what we've done and then, of course, I'll say thank you.
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1:04:10 – 1:04:14
And not even a question about how one is doing.
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At first it was a bit of a thought,
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1:04:19 – 1:04:22
Even though I can totally understand it,
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That's a shitty situation,
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Even when you're hanging in,
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That there are people reporting, so that the mountains at least once reported, I would also find shit.
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1:04:36 – 1:04:45
Considering also because you fight for your own life, because you fight with your wife for the life of the woman.
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I can absolutely understand these injuries, but at first, as I said, I had the impression that
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That's the main reason they're in the interview.
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1:04:57 – 1:05:00
But that changed later,
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when Richard told her family story about her stepmother
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and their experiences in the MS period,
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where my breath really stalled, where I had goosebumps.
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1:05:15 – 1:05:20
And I really thought,
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Wow, what a blatant story.
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And that was actually the motive.
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Exactly. So she described the situation with her stepmother
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and, above all, the trauma she had experienced,
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Almost transferred to you.
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It still has problems in life today.
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through the trauma of her mother.
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But also of course.
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Exactly, I say, she has her story with it, because of her ancestors and that is absolutely understandable and that was the main reason.
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The other is almost a side-taste, which they mentioned with, but the main reason,
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By the way, I also find this very interesting with all the other content creators and side quests,
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They also made videos on the subject. You know exactly who is meant. me
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I don't need to name any names. You all just go into this point,
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that it would be quasi-injured vanity, because not enough thanks were given and because not
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Health was asked.
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But this other point, which we have now mentioned,
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You all have it somehow.
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the rehearsal rnie side jumping into the breach,
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Somehow omitted.
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And above all, it was also clear in the interview,
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The other one was stupid and shit.
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And they felt exploited.
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But the repulsive point and the horror
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It was the relativization of Nazi crimes.
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with the thumbnail and don't admit that you made a mistake.
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Yes and the defamation by Jutta and that was the moment, that was the moment,
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Why did the two people report to Frank?
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You have to agree, they have then also reported to Bernie in advance that it is now
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There will be an interview with Frank.
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Bernie could have reacted.
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But of course Bernie reacted the way you know him,
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Instead of seeing a self-reflection.
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Frank mentioned that too.
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And maybe to ask about the constitution of the two,
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According to the state of health in general, as it is,
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In fact, he just took on the role of victim.
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He replied, "Be ashamed, be ashamed."
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1:08:13 – 1:08:18
That's right, and it didn't go into the spoken word at all.
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The only reason Bernie only saw the tunnel view is
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They go to my enemy, they go to Frank.
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1:08:28 – 1:08:32
But on the content of the message, he didn't go into it at all.
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This is Bernie as we have known and experienced him.
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The content of messages is not addressed.
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You're being hosted.
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That's right.
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We experienced it ourselves.
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Yes, after all, there was a podcast almost from him,
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where he touches on certain points, but not on other points.
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But I wanted to say something else with
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Victims of NS.
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My grandfather on my father's side was a political prisoner of the Nazi regime and also came to a camp and experienced things that you do not want to experience.
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And this experience has shaped him for his life, so that his children and his wife are also victims, because, well, if the man was retraumatized, then he has quasi switched into a survival mode and then just no longer, yes, no longer reacted reasonably.
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Then it became violent.
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And my grandma always said, before the imprisonment, the man was a completely different person.
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But also with him, through the methods that existed at that time and what happened there,
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He was traumatized by what the man had to experience.
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Of course, this is not to justify.
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And that he then became violent,
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I didn't get it wrong, but this man was also traumatized.
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He was broken into old age.
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Yeah, that's right.
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Of course it's something else
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Like the other prisoners.
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I don't want to do that anymore.
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But it's still
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It's awful. And there were a lot of people who suffered from it.
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Yes, but this one event has implications for my generation.
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Because with the shit my dad had experienced with his dad,
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My father had an absolute anti-violence attitude.
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You know what I mean?
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Yes, yes.
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And that's unbelievable how these deeds from the Nazi era,
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So many years later, it's still going through family history.
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1:11:19 – 1:11:25
And that's why I can understand that Bridget and her husband, Mark,
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highly reacted to the relativization on the part of Bernis.
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I totally understand that, too.
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And that was also justified, which I do not understand,
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The Bernie didn't mention it.
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Exactly. And now we're on the podcast that came after that,
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with another helper, Kira,
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and has all the reproaches that came there,
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1:11:57 – 1:12:01
Except for this reproach with the Nazi-relativization,
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have tried to invalidate it and have new, yes, the events around the memorial day
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1:12:11 – 1:12:18
From their point of view, they talk about the preparation phase. And of course there were all the questions,
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1:12:18 – 1:12:25
why this was and was so, yes, always a suitable and also, yes, a logical answer.
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1:12:25 – 1:12:35
But this one thing, this tipping point, why there was such a shitstorm for Bernie, there was no mention of it at all.
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1:12:35 – 1:12:42
No, and that was the most valid reason of all and the main hanger, the main reason.
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1:12:42 – 1:12:54
And what I would like to say again, it may also be because she also said that the Bernie would have thanked her for the help and so on.
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1:12:54 – 1:13:03
And also with others. It may be that Bernie did it with you, but he doesn't seem to have done it with Bridget and Marc.
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1:13:03 – 1:13:04
Exactly.
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1:13:04 – 1:13:13
And that is also the point. That's nice when he says that to you, but if he doesn't say it to them, that's not okay, you know what I mean?
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1:13:13 – 1:13:17
Or do you know what I mean?
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1:13:17 – 1:13:31
And the day after the podcast came, he went live again at night and then almost explained the topic for himself as done.
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1:13:31 – 1:13:36
And so we are almost in the present time.
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1:13:36 – 1:13:44
So dear Berni, the topic isn't finished just because now you decide for yourself that you have enough of it now.
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1:13:44 – 1:13:53
I think the topic is done when it's really worked out and you really
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1:13:53 – 1:13:59
professing colour and taking a reasonable stand without taking on the role of victim
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1:13:59 – 1:14:04
Just go ahead and legitimize your behavior.
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1:14:04 – 1:14:11
If you profess real color and look at real self-reflection and
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1:14:11 – 1:14:18
explaining and also showing insight why this was shit and doing it in a video and
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1:14:18 – 1:14:24
not in a livestream and then explain you there and go into all the points,
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1:14:24 – 1:14:33
Maybe the topic will be finished someday. But the scandal you're facing now
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1:14:33 – 1:14:41
This is one of the biggest scandals, at least in this case.
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1:14:41 – 1:14:44
YouTube bubble I've ever seen.
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1:14:44 – 1:14:51
And by the way, in general, if you see all bubbles like this, also from other content creators,
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1:14:51 – 1:14:55
It's actually the worst thing I've heard in months.
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1:14:55 – 1:15:04
You should ask yourself how you want to deal with this as a channel operator.
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1:15:04 – 1:15:10
But I think to say for you the topic is done now is not the right one
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1:15:10 – 1:15:11
Away.
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1:15:11 – 1:15:18
Yes, but he had in the meantime, so after the second upload
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1:15:18 – 1:15:26
the video, after he had deleted the first one, and to the podcasts and the livestreams
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1:15:26 – 1:15:29
He took a four-day break.
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1:15:29 – 1:15:37
Oh yes, that was the pause of the re-generation or the re-incarnation.
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1:15:37 – 1:15:38
That's right.
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1:15:38 – 1:15:46
And we know from our interaction with other creators, if only one
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1:15:46 – 1:15:49
If you take a break for a while, it's like a reset.
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1:15:49 – 1:15:54
So some take a break for four weeks, others stop for four days.
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1:15:54 – 1:15:59
Then it's like a reset and then you can start all over again,
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1:15:59 – 1:16:01
As if nothing had happened.
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1:16:01 – 1:16:04
And then this topic should no longer be on the table.
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1:16:04 – 1:16:10
But the internet doesn't forget.
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1:16:10 – 1:16:13
And then the subject is finished,
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1:16:13 – 1:16:17
If everyone has said something about it and the subject,
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1:16:17 – 1:16:22
It's just like I said, I've already answered it.
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1:16:22 – 1:16:26
Of course, what I find so bad about a whole thing is that
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1:16:26 – 1:16:29
that it stops these typical
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1:16:29 – 1:16:34
There are clothes that you know so well from all these Internet beef things.
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1:16:34 – 1:16:38
trivialization of the deed, then stop
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1:16:39 – 1:16:52
deliberately ignore these things, i.e. moderate them away, then just leave other things standing, then perpetrator-victim reversal and quasi also,
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1:16:52 – 1:17:04
That you accuse others of using emotional blackmail to get through your thing.
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1:17:04 – 1:17:11
It's just, that's typical behavior in these bubbles.
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1:17:11 – 1:17:16
They all use this communication strategy beforehand.
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1:17:16 – 1:17:23
Stop denying, attacking, perpetrator-victim reversal.
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1:17:23 – 1:17:26
And that's really hard.
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1:17:26 – 1:17:27
And silence.
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1:17:27 – 1:17:30
Silence, of course, that's a sow and a thing.
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1:17:30 – 1:17:32
And above all,
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1:17:32 – 1:17:41
He had also announced, because no one had asked him how he is now, after he just got a shitstorm.
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1:17:41 – 1:17:50
And he would have already dealt with free-death thoughts.
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1:17:50 – 1:17:55
Didn't he say the same thing to Bridget and Mark?
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1:17:55 – 1:17:56
Yeah, that's right.
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1:17:56 – 1:17:58
Memory protocol.
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1:17:58 – 1:18:02
And yes, that's an emotional blackmail.
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1:18:02 – 1:18:06
Yeah, why should I ask you?
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1:18:06 – 1:18:08
Because nobody asks me how I'm doing.
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1:18:08 – 1:18:12
And that's so, that's total narcissistic communication.
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1:18:12 – 1:18:17
Sorry. Yeah, that's so classic.
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1:18:17 – 1:18:21
I can't do it. That's disgusting.
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1:18:21 – 1:18:24
And as I said, I don't understand other content creators either.
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1:18:24 – 1:18:27
It doesn't matter which side the pros are on.
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1:18:27 – 1:18:31
Yes, because this is also our next topic.
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1:18:31 – 1:18:33
These are the side quests.
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1:18:33 – 1:18:51
In the prefabricated building of the capital
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1:18:51 – 1:18:55
high up on the wall holds the Brumberg
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1:18:55 – 1:19:03
Bernie Thüringer, salami in hand. The Aldi boiler goulash stamps so finely on the balcony.
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1:19:03 – 1:19:13
The face is grim, the gaze rigid, that's how life must be. The camera is running, the balcony whispered, now goes live.
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1:19:13 – 1:19:18
The finger points to others, for reflection it lacks the drive.
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1:19:18 – 1:19:23
Brumberg Bernie never makes a mistake, Schubidu.
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1:19:23 – 1:19:28
It's always the fault of others, of you.
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1:19:28 – 1:19:33
He looks down from his little throne of concrete.
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1:19:33 – 1:19:38
No spark of insight, but the boss on the balcony.
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1:19:38 – 1:19:42
Brumberg Bernie sees the world through his blind spot.
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1:19:42 – 1:19:46
What he's screwing up, he's just pushing it far, far away.
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1:19:46 – 1:19:52
40 degrees in summer, the minced meat carried through the city.
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1:19:52 – 1:19:58
But who, someone dares to say a word about it.
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1:19:58 – 1:20:02
The diligent helpers get sick, the diagnosis difficult.
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1:20:02 – 1:20:07
But Bernie doesn't ask, empathy doesn't exist here anymore.
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1:20:07 – 1:20:12
Booked a cheap hotel, then there is only radio silence.
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1:20:12 – 1:20:17
The sacrificial role he takes himself, that is his iron will
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1:20:17 – 1:20:22
Oh, Brumberg-Bernie never makes a mistake, Schubidu
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1:20:22 – 1:20:25
It's always the fault of the others
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1:20:25 – 1:20:27
Yes, only you
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1:20:27 – 1:20:32
He looks down from his little throne of concrete
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1:20:32 – 1:20:37
No spark of insight, but the boss on the balcony
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1:20:37 – 1:20:41
Brumberg-Bernie sees the world through his blind spot
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1:20:41 – 1:20:45
What he's screwing up, he's just pushing it far, far away.
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1:20:45 – 1:20:50
Then it gets gloomy when logic remembers
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1:20:50 – 1:20:55
and directing contact guilt to the top for no reason at all.
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1:20:55 – 1:21:01
The moderator defames the words harshly and coldly.
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1:21:01 – 1:21:06
Responsibility is wiped away, the video deletes the ball.
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1:21:06 – 1:21:10
Ten minutes online, then a "sorry that just stings".
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1:21:10 – 1:21:15
Because he immediately agrees to the next accusations in words.
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1:21:15 – 1:21:21
But real remorse does not show Brumber's face.
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1:21:21 – 1:21:49
[Music]
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1:21:49 – 1:21:54
Four days break as a reset, as if nothing ever happened
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1:21:54 – 1:21:59
Because you always lose your own guilt in your bubble
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1:21:59 – 1:22:04
The critics ignore, the chat is hand read
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1:22:04 – 1:22:09
In the end, the Andes were once again the evil being
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1:22:09 – 1:22:14
Bumbe Berni eats his goulash all alone
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1:22:14 – 1:22:16
All alone!
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1:22:17 – 1:22:20
Salami tastes of the Holy Shine, is pure.
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1:22:20 – 1:22:22
Shoe off, shoe off, shoe off, shoe off, off.
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1:22:22 – 1:22:24
No mistake to see here.
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1:22:24 – 1:22:31
No mistake to see here.
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1:22:31 – 1:22:43
Yes, then let's go into the block with the sidequests.
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1:22:43 – 1:22:52
So the sidequests next to characters, next to locations, are always something,
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1:22:52 – 1:22:59
Which should not be overlooked. And the bad thing is that these creators mostly
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1:22:59 – 1:23:05
are not independent content creators in the classical sense themselves, that the now large channels
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1:23:05 – 1:23:13
They have, but that they almost always only make a reaction when something blatant happens and
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1:23:13 – 1:23:19
Add your mustard. Yes, or some channels are just brand new or extra for that one reason
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1:23:19 – 1:23:31
have been made. Exactly and there were various videos and the one are somehow pro Frank or
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1:23:31 – 1:23:43
pro Bernie and they also work parasocially actually in these realms and it
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1:23:43 – 1:23:50
It also seems as if these people are waging proxy wars for the great
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1:23:50 – 1:23:58
Content Creator, for example, for Bernie and Frank. As well as what you can't do besides
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1:23:58 – 1:24:05
Of course, the commentators from the videos are allowed to leave eight. Or stop in the live chat. Or also
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1:24:05 – 1:24:13
Live chat, exactly. They are also on all contact creators then and rush. Where it then
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1:24:13 – 1:24:20
also small battles take place within the chat at the livestreams, because the one is
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1:24:20 – 1:24:27
Pro there, the other is Pro there. Yes, which are then also extra not moderated, where it is also extra from
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1:24:27 – 1:24:33
Bernie directs not to moderate. Yes, if it is against the
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1:24:33 – 1:24:38
TV chat chest goes. Or against Lautfunk or about no matter who, where he is not
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1:24:38 – 1:24:44
Well done, that's perfectly okay. Wherever hard moderated comments, because
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1:24:44 – 1:24:48
You know, because you've been told that you're all
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1:24:48 – 1:24:55
Comments must be released by hand, stop with attacks on others
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1:24:55 – 1:25:01
Stop the counter-creators. The main thing is against the "enemy" in quotes.
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1:25:01 – 1:25:10
Exactly. Or where the bubble is against it. Because you want to be a content creator,
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1:25:10 – 1:25:15
Bernie also likes the bubble. And the bubble wants its hate completely
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1:25:15 – 1:25:23
Let it out. Without any guidelines or anything. That's not how it plays
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1:25:23 – 1:25:32
role. A belt line doesn't matter. But that's kind of something that
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1:25:32 – 1:25:39
Berni seems to be normal on the canal. I'm actually more comfortable with Frank.
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1:25:39 – 1:25:41
In the chat anyway.
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1:25:41 – 1:25:47
Yes, the chat is much better moderated and of course there are sometimes small
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1:25:47 – 1:25:55
Spikes blown out. But anything that virtually crosses the belt line, the red line,
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1:25:55 – 1:26:03
This is being moderated. And overall I take the chat there generally more benevolent
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1:26:03 – 1:26:14
And more kindly true. He's not so full of hate. I have to agree, yes. Yes, that's for everyone
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1:26:14 – 1:26:22
Take a different approach to this whole issue. Yes, and definitely these people as I said
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1:26:22 – 1:26:27
commentators and then other content creators or people who become content creators for
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1:26:27 – 1:26:34
this purpose. Yes, first viewers and then content creators. Yes, they will give their
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1:26:34 – 1:26:41
Mustard for that. And there is, for example, a creator who made a video that we
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1:26:41 – 1:26:48
I don't know who Robert is. I think it was only published today.
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1:26:48 – 1:26:57
became. Yes, I also found it interesting, because she also told this topic,
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1:26:57 – 1:27:05
Because she wanted to rhetorically explain how it came about, how it came about. Like the rhetorical in
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1:27:05 – 1:27:12
In their logic, of course, this made sense and was strong, but it was
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1:27:12 – 1:27:18
Very important details are omitted, namely those that make a story holistic.
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1:27:18 – 1:27:25
Yes, it was just about the wounded vanity.
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1:27:25 – 1:27:28
For example, there was no mention of the other issue.
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1:27:28 – 1:27:35
And so, of course, if you want to strengthen Bernie's back,
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1:27:35 – 1:27:40
Create a unified picture. And for people who don't know the whole story and
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1:27:40 – 1:27:46
Listen to the stories from the different bubbles and then get your own picture
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1:27:46 – 1:27:51
Of course, it is difficult, because if I only use my information from a source
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1:27:51 – 1:28:00
I don't get it right and I have the opinion if I already have reaction videos.
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1:28:00 – 1:28:06
If I'm going to give my opinion on a topic, then I have to tell you everything that happens.
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is. And then you can still classify it, this also applies to others, as you like it,
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1:28:16 – 1:28:25
So with your point of view, which, what is it called, your moral compass. I mean,
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1:28:25 – 1:28:32
You don't have to be compliant with that. By the way, we also do not comply with this. I found it
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1:28:32 – 1:28:39
Interesting to hear from this content creator. She has no critics or haters.
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1:28:39 – 1:28:50
I wouldn't sign that either. Every content creator, every goddamn content creator,
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TikTok, YouTube, no matter where, has people who see you critically.
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Yes, and if you just don't like your nose.
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Exactly. And that's one point, everyone has critics and haters. The question is whether I will moderate it or not.
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if I allow it, but you just have to admit it, just for yourself
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Write in the back of your head. This is almost a complete misdemeanor.
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In any case, there was a reaction video from Ms. Holle about the interview with Frank,
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So from Bridget and Marc, which really went several hours and there you really have every sequence
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discussed. I didn't watch it live because there was another one.
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Live in parallel. Then, of course, there was reaction and opinion from Maren. Then there are
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A new channel that speaks very pro Bernie. This is Faye. In the end, it also has
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A conflict with Wonderworld. Wonderworld is more on Frank's side and stinging
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Now with Faye, it's about age discrimination and other accusations.
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Frank then stings against Faye and then throws things into the room,
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I don't know if there's any interest in Bernie. Altershaming takes place,
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Age discrimination and you simply notice that these people in connection with the comment writers and the live viewers in the chat almost fight out these trench fights, this war among the creators and also occasionally fuel.
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You can see how dangerous parasocial relationships are.
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And then it doesn't matter how well rhetorically I design my videos,
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How emotionally I make my videos.
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In the end, it's all proxy wars for the creator, which you just find good.
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Yes, and all of them somehow lack one and that is holistic, that you illuminate both sides.
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That's why we're trying to do this.
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Whether we can do that is another question.
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Yes, because of course we are also assumed to be Pro Frank, because we also take place on the channel of the TV treasure tour from time to time.
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We got cups, as Frank gave cups and Christine,
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where they were also very happy about it and we were also very happy about the cups.
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Nevertheless, we are still our format, rectally, digitally, the acts of the self-actors.
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And we still see Frank critically on certain points,
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Like content creators, like Bernie and so on.
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and we are positioning ourselves in this regard, we would like to emphasise this again,
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Not on any side, but as an observer of the whole.
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and also arrange the events that have fallen before,
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From our personal point of view.
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And there were spikes from Frank that weren't okay.
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There were spikes of Bernie that weren't okay,
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When you ask yourself in general, you have to do everything.
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Is it still online?
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I mean, on the other hand, we can also be happy because otherwise we wouldn't have any content to talk about.
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Yes, but when I sit there in my live and I have a running snot,
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Philosophy goes around that I no longer have toilet paper and no kitchen rolls
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and I have to go right now, just get me a towel, so a tea towel.
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And then the Frank said, yes, then you can also take a pair of underpants.
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Then out of the underpants a dirty one.
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Made a dirty one by Bernie.
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Exactly.
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And so the whole situation comes to a head.
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And the viewer, the inclined one, who likes his creator of the content,
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Of course, this takes up and then the whole thing rocks up.
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It's just a spiral of outrage.
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And that ends in such derailments, if you then stop in the background of other people
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And then he gets instigated, because the Battermann is so evil and the Bernie is so evil.
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Yes, yes.
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And what you can't forget is that when you have a bunch of people around you,
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who always tell you how great you are and you are not a person who is reflective enough,
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If you question it, you'll believe it someday. And then you have to stop, how stop
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in the case of the stars, which take place on television and in other media, content creators,
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They believe that they are the best on earth and that they are the best on earth.
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can be severely beaten, because yes, the viewers all say, you are so great and then comes criticism and
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Then that can't be true. If I'm criticized now, that's not true because it's
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Everyone tells me I'm so great and that sounds narcissistic. Yes and many enjoy
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Take a flight, generally speaking. And there is often a lack of healthy
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Self-reflection is often necessary.
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Ask questions, and we can do that.
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Personal reasons also ask, especially
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Impulsiva's Bubble. What
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Do you know why they are so great to you?
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Find and support? Because you have it
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The war is going on and almost
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Take a counter-attack. That's exactly what they support, because that's exactly what people want to see. Beef
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Click and it heats up. But the question is, do they really value you as a creator,
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Even if you didn't know anything about quantum physics. Yes, you can see that in the ratings.
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You've seen that with us, too. In addition, if our topics somehow conclude,
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that it's somehow about this bubble theme, we have clicks. And it was always everything
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super great. But if, for example, Sascha then made videos on other topics,
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which are also interesting and of high quality even well researched,
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where it's just about other things outside of this beef bubble theme, then that hardly sounds,
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It was a lot of work and a lot of classification. And that, of course, will come from these
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People are not so honored. This was the case in the past, when we were still part of
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The other bubbles were. – Exactly. – Because people do not want to see that,
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They don't support you for that.
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No.
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And Bernie, that's the same with you.
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And someday that insight will come.
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The question is, when will it come?
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And how much damage will you take from it?
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I mean, the damage is already big enough.
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Yeah, but he took a four-day break.
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There is a reset.
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It's done for him.
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Now this can only go up again.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, he thinks so.
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We are now wondering how this escalation spiral
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It will go even further.
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What will come next?
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Yes, that's what the days will show.
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I mean, we're gonna record this on Friday.
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We still have a weekend ahead of us, where there are also some videos
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There are some live formats.
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We are currently at 11:51 p.m. on the 17th.
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7. 2026, this is also our current status with which we report. Of course we don't know,
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How it goes on. It's very uncomfortable right now, I'd say.
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in the bubbles. Something is boiling together and one can only hope that someday
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A little more calm, from all sides. It is also understandable and
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That's always something I want to say.
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If someone attacks you publicly, you have the opportunity
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And you can do that, and you can defend yourself in public.
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I find it interesting, for example, that you tell others,
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If you've been publicly attacked, yes, it's private.
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You could have been private to the person from the outset.
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Go before you hit the person in public.
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That the person then justifies himself and also what says about it
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And also spreading tips, that's logical.
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The problem is that this game keeps heating up all the time,
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Because it goes on like this.
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That's right. And
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We know from our own experience that if you do something on the internet and something stupid happens, then you have to live with people making fun of it, that there are spikes, that there are stupid comments, that there are funny comments about it.
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Or if you make a faux pas by making a stupid statement, you also have to reckon with being taken apart for it.
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These are just structures as they are today.
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How often are we criticized for any wrong pronunciation, for dialect-related pronunciations.
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There are other things. Something is constantly being pointed out.
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Sometimes it's more accusatory, sometimes enlightening and sometimes it's just a tip.
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And you have to live with it. Either you retaliate in a reasonable way.
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or you are totally outraged and then immediately make accusing videos.
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We see that in this bubble at the moment.
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So people have all become thin-skinned.
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Yes, I mean, it's understandable, of course, because
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These wars, I say, these scenes,
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They have been around for many months or years.
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And this is becoming more and more congested.
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1:40:46 – 1:40:51
But it also escalates further and further, by more and more blatant things then also happen.
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It's just difficult.
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Yes, and the viewer demands it.
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Yeah, that's it.
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1:40:58 – 1:41:02
When it comes to beef, that's also the case with Bernie or Frank,
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1:41:02 – 1:41:06
Of course, they also have their audiences,
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1:41:06 – 1:41:11
But when it comes to beef in general, it clicks better.
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You have twice as many viewers as normal.
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Yeah, that's the way it is.
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And sometimes there are three times as many viewers on the TV show.
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1:41:20 – 1:41:29
If you're at the breakfast club or something in the morning, a consequence that just doesn't conflict potential
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1:41:29 – 1:41:36
You have anything between 200 and 250 spectators. In the aftermath, where you get this from
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1:41:36 – 1:41:43
You have 500, 600 spectators all at once. Yes, whatever you have to say,
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1:41:43 – 1:41:51
If, for example, you have these beef-free livestreams, they are also well done
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1:41:51 – 1:41:54
and interesting and Jutta is very anxious and the Frank too.
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1:41:54 – 1:42:03
And for the most part, the fans really do honor that.
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But it doesn't click like that, does it?
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Like I said, it's because Beef clicks.
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That's what it is.
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If you, as a content creator, put love into your format, it will of course
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It's rewarding, but it's not as rewarding as if you're doing what the community is doing.
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1:42:25 – 1:42:30
It's all about beef, and that's beef. But you also have other people in the community,
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who actually want peace, who look at this and also so the content of individual
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1:42:39 – 1:42:43
I like content creators who don't like it anymore.
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1:42:43 – 1:42:48
They also try to communicate and have no understanding of it,
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1:42:48 – 1:42:56
This conflict is as degenerate as it is now.
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1:42:56 – 1:43:01
And you just see that all this is somehow around a few figures,
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1:43:01 – 1:43:07
They also act a little out of the background, just gathered together.
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The threads always run there.
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Yes, yes.
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Yes, that was actually a closing word.
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Yes, but there is still something essential missing, because we want to keep that, but now only wink with eyes, no more to annoy, just a bit.
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A little fun, you know what it means, finger heart.
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Yes, then we come to the Flatterman of the Week.
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The Flatterman of the Week.
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Do you want to introduce it or should I?
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So it was the Batis Live from 12.7.
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Exactly, from last Sunday.
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It was pretty much the end, I think.
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It was as good as the end, yes.
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The only question was, what are you doing now?
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Yes, there were already one or two other things said, so according to the motto, maybe this will be the Flattermann of the week.
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And then Frank said yes, but that determines the Lautfunks, what the Flattermann of the week will be.
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That's right on the spot.
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Not what you want.
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But still, it was such a cool place.
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And we also find it funny, stop with the wink.
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Because it had a cool situation comedy.
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Yes, in any case, Christine says,
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She has to leave now, because she still has to water the garden quickly,
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Because they replanted it.
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Yeah, and then Frank says that to her.
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Yes, you have to water yourself.
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Then she says, "I could answer something now, but I better not say it.
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Or should I?
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Then Frank, "Is it that bad?"
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And she grins like that and he says, "So, Lautfunk, listen away!"
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And then Christine says you could take your hose, too.
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Yes, the situation was funny, because before there were always places like this in the livestream,
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where the two had thrown the balls and it was just these typical
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Flatterman of the week moments. Exactly. Yeah, but that was the best. So old white man and old
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White woman so paired. The moment we have now knocked out, as I said this time with a
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Blink of an eye and a heart of a finger. We keep that because it's always been a nice thing to do.
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It's always been fun. Yes, now that we've had the final word almost before,
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Now we're almost done with our stuff. Yes, then it remains only to say, we are curious,
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You will soon hear from us again in the form of a
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Podcast. You know, this can happen sporadically if something bad happens,
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where we say now, we want to record now absolutely, if time permits. It can
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But a few weeks go by again. We always do it by feeling. And soon you can
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You may even see us live if you like. Yeah, don't see, listen. Yes,
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Yes, and we would be interested in your opinion on this topic, but what is important,
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Even if you criticize us or others.
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Please do this constructively and respectfully, and please stick to what we are talking about.
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He has also spoken on the podcast and doesn't come from Pontius on Pilate.
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And don't open up any side scenes again, because this topic was already crass enough.
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Yeah, definitely. And then we will be happy to share these comments,
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You can also talk to each other in the comments.
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But defamation, no matter what content creator, we do not allow it.
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We are moderated extremely strictly. This means that every single comment is seen by us heredarically and we consider whether we release it or not.
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Exactly, that's what I wanted to say. In our experience, this is unfortunately the only way we can ensure a reasonable exchange without all this being eaten up hard.
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Exactly, unfortunately, this dynamic has developed in such a way that you really have to act like in kindergarten.
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And as I said, be patient, if a comment is in order, it will already be released.
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You don't have to make one or two comments after that.
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Why wasn't my comment released? This, that, pineapple.
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We're not in moderation 24/7.
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From time to time we will look there and then we release comments.
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I understand that it may take a little while.
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If a comment is too controversial or
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cross-border, in whatever direction or not factual,
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We will not release them.
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Then you know why without reacting to it.
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And to individual special comments that have not been released, for example,
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If we say yes, we could talk about that.
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We'll talk about that in the livestream.
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Exactly. Okay, then I'd say
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Thank you for listening.
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Don't forget to leave a comment to like,
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Don't forget to share it with your most important friends and the hype.
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Exactly and activate the bell.
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All of them, not personalized.
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Very important and we wish you a nice weekend.
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Thank you for listening to us.
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And say until next time.
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Farewell to you!
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Farewell to you!
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The light goes out,
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The filter falls
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and what's left
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From your perfect world?
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Look now, look very closely, the ring light is fading, the truth is standing still.
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Does she want to go now?
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