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Look now, look now, you see them debating big on Insta and on YouTube.
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But when it comes to you, you lose track of yourself.
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Exactly now she was hung up, critical to the outside,
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False, transparent, yet de facto impulsive.
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They turn the truth around and filter it all wrong.
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Look at it now!
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Look at it now!
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The double standard shines brightly in the awakened ring light.
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What is wrong with others must be right with you.
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Just look closely!
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Look at it now!
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They build a construct that only pleases their image
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and make room for impulses
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Your own little world
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Look at it now!
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Look at it now!
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Liallo and welcome, dear friends
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Exquisite or bad taste.
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Hello to Sasha!
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Hello Sarah!
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Well, how are you?
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Yeah, well, very short and barely good.
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Yeah, I'm happy about that.
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How are you?
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Oh, yeah, better today.
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Actually, we wanted to record yesterday, but I really struggled with migraines yesterday.
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Yes, it started all day, it started in the morning.
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Yes, and if you can't stand the light and the room has to be darkened and you are also very noisy.
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All quiet.
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everything is quiet and my sound is sensitive and you have to struggle with nausea,
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If this is the full migraine program, then such a recording is simply not possible.
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Unless we had made such a videocast with pantomime.
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Yeah, but even that hurts.
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That's right.
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It's like that.
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Yes, then I would have said, let's start right away with our call to action.
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If you like what we do here, you can give us a thumbs up.
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Write a comment or even hyp. We would be very happy about that.
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All right, let's get to home-making. Yeah, I would've said it's a lot
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It's happening. But in house magic, let's focus on the discussion of our
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The last livestream, which was only a few days ago. Yes, I think Wednesday. Yes, I believe it
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It was Wednesday. We talked to them a little bit about each of them.
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Content creators have spoken and, of course, have also spoken about some of the comments.
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Those who have been with us lately. And with us, the comments are filtered,
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they must be hendarically released, because many people simply spread blind hatred
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Just give up nonsense. And yes, these comments are honored there and
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Appreciated. This also means, if you want to leave your love there again, dear Haterbubble,
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You can do it easily. Commented, it will not be released, but in the next
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Livestream for sure we'll listen to your comments so you can listen
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feel. Exactly, the so-called non-subscriber insult. Exactly. Yeah, which I found a bit of a pity at
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Our livestream was the rule "non-participation". On the other hand, I have to say right away,
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We also had a lot of people who participated. It was also super nice in
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Chat. But of course there were also some spectators who followed long enough,
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That you could comment, which of course did not comment. Some may prefer to hear
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I just like to write and don't like to write. And then, of course, there's the magic.
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10 percent, the people who hatewatch. At least I would have expected a little
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Criticism is coming. Somehow yes. But then you'd rather lurch. They didn't dare. funny
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I found these completed channel memberships. Thank you again
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in the place for it. To Frank and others who have completed a channel membership
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They also gave away memberships. It was interesting to see who was in
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This list pops up. For the people who don't know when you canal memberships
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When you give away, you don't find a specific person. I think you can do that on YouTube, too.
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Not at all. No, but YouTube selects random people from the viewers, who then
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Get a membership for free. And that's interesting, especially with the people,
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They don't care who shows up like that. Whoever breaks up like that. Exactly.
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Among them was Boris Brandt. I believe Bob Boris TV or I don't know
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Like this or Bob TV, I don't know what that channel was called.
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In any case, I had asked at that moment,
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This is Boris Brandt's channel.
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This has been confirmed.
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And I found that at the point, to say the least, really very, very funny,
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Of course I greeted him with Hello Boris.
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But of course he was also taken a bit on the grain.
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In one of our last editions of Rektal Digital from the file of the self-actors Boris commented under the video,
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That he so celebrates our intro from the acts of the self-actors.
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Shortly thereafter, this comment suddenly disappeared.
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I also wonder what the television is about.
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Yeah, maybe because the rest of the show didn't like it.
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Yes, but then you could have edited his comment.
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For example, I like your intro.
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That's great, but the rest is shit.
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The rest is shit.
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That would have been okay, but it didn't come.
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Well, it's a little swarming everywhere, I always say.
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Well, that's normal.
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Yeah, but it's a pity.
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As a human being, he usually didn't fall on his mouth.
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He's talkative.
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Yeah, that's it.
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I would have expected a bit more size.
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It may, of course, be that the Babbel, where he moves,
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where our good impulses are in it,
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She didn't like it because I think we know Impulsiva.
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You know how she reacted to us at the time,
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when we said to Frank, when we weren't good with Frank,
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that he has brought a horny tip and we have honored that on Instagram,
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Because you have to highlight positive things.
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There was Sabrina nut in the Just, which led to the break with Lautfunk.
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Because you can seem to a man,
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If you don't like it or don't support it, don't say a single positive word.
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Otherwise you are at Sabrina down below through.
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Everyone has to know that.
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That's very important.
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Yes, so people don't have positive attributes,
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If you are on the blacklist.
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That's right, exactly.
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And I think it will have been the same with Boris that
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He's just pretty much for it.
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On the pillory was put, truffled.
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Yeah, he was truffled.
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Bernie was also rumored under the same podcast episode.
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First, he praised the podcast, which he didn't even listen to.
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Then he was probably told about you by the Hater Bobbe, ey Bernie.
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But also spoken, but not positively.
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Delete this one.
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He also deleted his comment.
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I mean, that was also revealing in many ways.
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Do you think that was so, that's so one-dimensional?
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Yes, yes.
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You mean that?
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Yeah, yeah, that's how it goes.
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Yeah, you hear so much.
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Well, that's very funny, anyway.
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It's funny how people sometimes really tear themselves apart, according to Bubble internally.
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When you say something that displeases.
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But as long as you don't put the whole thing in public and express it publicly, that's okay, of course.
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Otherwise, of course, one also dislikes the great impulsive.
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That's not possible for me.
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No.
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Shit.
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I'm sorry for that.
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It's just my opinion.
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Yes, the next one would be,
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Do you have any
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Thematic requests?
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Thus, in the context of the
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Acts of the self-actors?
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Is there any
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channels and also
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Dynamics to discuss?
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Write it in the comments. Of course, this bubble is specific.
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So this bubble specifically. Of course, we could also
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Take care of other YouTube beef, from other bubbles. But there's the thing that many
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You can't talk if you're not in the picture.
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Yes, but you can illuminate the dynamics and then draw conclusions about it,
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That's what it's like in this little bubble.
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Whether there are parallels or something like that.
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That would be interesting.
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Of course, you can also suggest topics for our other formats
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Generally speaking, rectal digital.
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It doesn't always have to be about YouTube.
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We like to cite media criticism.
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So of course you can also add other topics that are currently
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are viral, for example at TikTok or anywhere else where you think now, boah, that would have to be discussed.
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What we don't like to talk about is political issues.
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I would like to say this in advance, because our channel is not a political channel.
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But that would also be interesting. But you can also bring topic suggestions for completely different topics.
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From me also about baking recipes, but you won't hear so much from me
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Because I don't bake much. You've heard a lot more about Sasha.
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Yes, it has also been noticed that we like to post a photo of a successful cake.
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On social media? My God, what are you posting for messes here, too?
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I can't do that.
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Yes, if I have made such a beautiful cake, then I am also proud of my value.
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Other people post photos of their toilet because they're proud of it.
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Others stop at their cakes they've baked.
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I prefer to look at cake.
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But yes, people who are proud of their dishwashing, I mean, we can honor that too, right?
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If it worked out well.
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Go for it!
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Always!
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Yes, yes.
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Then I would say, then let's get to our first topic block.
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Do you want to get started?
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Yes, and this is about the subject of the court hearing around the China-Hartenfall Fabian.
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And it's mostly about Bernie, because Bernie was there as a journalist,
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has legitimized himself with his press card in court and has reported on his experiences there,
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Not necessarily the way you might have expected it to be or the way it should have been.
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Yeah, so I would have expected you to go there, take notes, and then later
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It's about what's been said, maybe even the atmosphere.
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There was a mood in the courtroom. But we were taught better.
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What you have to know is that the Berni has arrived extra,
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for the court hearing.
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The first, the most difficult decision was,
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Do I take the Flixbus or do I take the car?
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Yes, but I think with the Flixbus this would have been very difficult for our Bernardo,
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because I don't think that such a Flixbus always stops very often on the way,
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You can smoke and I speak from my own experience. I am both already
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Short distances driven, but actually mainly long distances with the Flixbus.
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And I can't always say that there are breaks long enough that you can smoke,
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Except, of course, when people get in and out of other cities. Depending on,
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How many minutes the bus is there, you can smoke, but most of the time you really sit
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On the bus and you can't smoke. And our Bernardo has a great need for smoke,
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What I can understand as a smoker is that I don't smoke as much as I do now.
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he. But I think that would have been difficult. This is also the case in the Flixbus.
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You have to have a seat, you can reserve it.
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You can also reserve two seats.
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For example, what I would always recommend if you don't like it,
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that now someone is sitting next to you who may not know,
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Who isn't so sympathetic to you.
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It just has to be someone who might have sweated a lot.
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and did not shower.
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That's awkward.
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Personally, I don't like it that way now.
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Of course, this is not for everyone
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Passengers in the care pulse, but I personally, for example, very much like to book two seats
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on long-distance trips, so that you simply have your peace of mind.
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But for Bernhard, of course, this was nothing, because as I said, he can't smoke on the way
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and then you have to get on board in Berlin, for example at Zopp or Alexanderplatz.
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And you have to get there first, then you have to park your car there somewhere.
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Of course, that's stupid for driving over there.
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Accordingly, I can understand that he then preferred the car.
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Plus, you're flexible.
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Definitely, if you want to take a break when you need to go to the toilet,
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Then you go to the bathroom and then you go to the bathroom.
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In Flixbuses, the problem is often that the toilets do not work.
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I think they're working, only the drivers don't have the guts to clean it up.
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Yes, in any case, it is always said that the toilets are defective.
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So I can tell you stories.
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In my young 20s, I really drove very regularly in Flixbuses.
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I'm glad I don't do that anymore.
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I would always prefer the train or the car, definitely.
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Yes, but everyone has to decide for themselves.
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Well, now he drove the car and then took part in the trial.
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Exactly, there he has legitimized himself almost in advance with press card.
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You have to do that a few days before.
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Then you get the promise of whether you can attend the court hearing or not.
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Because it is also the case, at the court hearing around China was, to my knowledge, the courtroom,
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where this case is being negotiated, even extra magnified.
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Reconstruction measures have been carried out, I think, that there are more spectator seats.
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But on the spectator seats there is mainly press,
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Because otherwise only relatives are sitting there. I don't know if the case for
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The public is allowed. I didn't really know about it,
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Ordinary viewers can also watch outside the press. So far my
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Not really knowledge. I didn't know that either, because honestly
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So court cases are relatively boring for me. If this is such a complex case
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As is the case now, when so many days of negotiations have been set aside, there will be
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in places l-long texts read aloud, applications made and witnesses interrogated. That's long-winded.
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And yes, I'm actually just waiting for the verdict and then hope that the
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Justice, well, as far as it goes, is enough. For the press and
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I still find this interesting when they report it and then almost, I know
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not how long these process days go and that these whole hours stop concentrating in their
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Reports and that you can inform yourself if you want to. Well, you got a lot of Bernie
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Do you expect journalistic work? So I'm honest, my expectations for Berni were now
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Not very high, because he is not well known for his journalistic work.
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I had also asked myself personally, but the question has since been answered,
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How did he get a press card? As far as I know, there should be some
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How to work as a journalist if you want to have a press card. reporting
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You don't actually see it on the website or anywhere else,
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Which I think is a bit of a shame, because that's why he's taking a
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other journalists, who perhaps really report journalistically, actually
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The place to go at such a court hearing.
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And just on the day he was there, that was the day,
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China H has finally testified.
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He remained silent throughout the entire
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Court hearings throughout the day,
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Days of trial, of trial there in the Fabian case,
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where witnesses were interrogated and and and and people from around China H,
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People from the environment of Fabian and Doreena, from a lot of people.
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A lot of people were almost heard there.
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And some people will be heard as well.
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But in any case, this day was fruitful, in my opinion,
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Because this is finally the day,
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where China describes its view of things.
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And that's in a 95-page book.
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Statement almost made.
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Yes, you haven't heard so much from her before, except once or twice, when she said something to her sister.
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And that's what I've seen. Whether that's true now, I don't know.
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You shouldn't pin yourself on it now, because we didn't do journalistic research, in the case of Fabian,
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I haven't seen the live ticker or anything like that.
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This is done by others who are really deeper into the matter.
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I can only tell you about what I have learned so far.
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Even now, this conversation should not be about what knowledge is known,
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In fact, it's mostly about Berny's handling of this case.
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Exactly. What did Bernie say?
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Now that he's heard those 95 pages?
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Well, after leaving the courtroom, he already has a first statement at
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YouTube uploaded.
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He did a short livestream.
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So 10 minutes.
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Yes, and the whole thing was 13 days ago, by the way.
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And I'm going to literally quote a small excerpt of what Bernie said.
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Incidentally, he said in this statement that he would like to talk in more detail about his impressions and so on later,
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But now he has spoken briefly.
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Quote by Bernie.
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Should I add a male voice?
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Oh, we're just pitching you down a little bit.
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Cool, okay, let's do it that way.
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So, the Gina, she's got a real vibe, isn't she?
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If she comes into the room, she has, you know what I mean, right?
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It's got a real vibe, isn't it?
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There are people who don't radiate anything.
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And then again, there are people who occupy the whole room.
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You know what I mean?
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Yes, yes.
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It's insane.
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What a radiance it has.
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Pfff.
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It's tough.
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Yeah, I almost fell asleep. Luckily, half an hour later, there was a break.
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where I'll be out. Then I pulled in two cigarettes.
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Quote at the end
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Yes, you have to say, before he said it has to do with the radiance,
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Now he's going to say something that one or the other won't like.
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I found it impressive that in the statement, what he gave in the livestream
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He said he almost fell asleep on the 95 pages.
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But that it is so important that when this woman enters the courtroom, there is a fantastic charisma.
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Yes, yes.
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He almost raved about the woman.
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Yeah, I kind of found that, too.
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Especially in the video, he smiled.
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But that's just my perception and opinion.
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It has nothing to do with how he actually meant it.
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But it really had such an impression on me,
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With the fact that he's almost hooked up.
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I found it a bit strange.
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I'd give you a little bit of advice,
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When you talk about broadcasting
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As I said, the presumption of innocence.
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offender in front of her.
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Then I would have expected him to at least describe this expression that she would have had.
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So if you say that someone has a special charisma and that you just notice that when someone enters a room,
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Then it should be explained in more detail.
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Yes, so there are people who come into a room and fill the whole room.
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Yes, then there are other people who come into the room and you don't even notice them.
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Yeah, so if one, what's the person's name now?
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Shit, I just wanted to give you an example.
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When a prominent person comes in, a showmaster,
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Someone who has experience on stage and enters the room, you can tell.
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And I was kind of expecting something to come, like that.
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But no.
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That leaves so much room for speculation.
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Yes, what you think I mean, for example, with a moderator,
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who does his job very well and likes to do it, he usually comes in
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with a smile and has such a positive charisma.
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Yes, the posture as well.
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Exactly. The person comes in upright and the one directly takes all the spectators,
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When he starts talking. People usually applaud for the first time.
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It has a certain radiance.
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I don't know what Bernie wanted to say.
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As an example of what you could say if you perceived it that way,
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For example, she had an ice-cold appearance when she came or her face, I don't know, was expressionless.
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It seemed cool to me as an example.
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Or, as you yourself say, it seemed completely inconspicuous.
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Might as well be.
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According to the motto, you almost didn't notice them.
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Yes, I almost lacked the classification.
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Exactly.
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And that, as he said, it is more or less, leaves room for interpretation, which happened later.
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But we'll talk about it right away.
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Yes, it really had the impression on me, these deep breaths in between, this mischievous smile, that seemed almost flirty to me, but that was just my impression.
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That's why it's all the more important if you want to describe something, an expression or a mood or a feeling.
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These are just things that you would then have to name what triggered it.
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If you really want to.
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Because journalists like to use such a thing that they describe their personal impression.
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But that comes in addition to the facts.
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Facts, by the way, are something I haven't heard from Bernardo yet.
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In the case of China-H.
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A great report was also announced about his impressions,
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But somehow there was nothing there, even in the later livestream in the evening.
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Was there nothing?
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No, unfortunately. And if someone works there as a journalist and does press work,
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I expect a report. Then I expect to be summarized,
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What China has said, in the framework where it is allowed.
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There are usually limits, where there is almost a barrier,
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It is not allowed to report on certain topics.
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There were also scenarios where the press had to leave the room, for example,
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These are scenes that are definitely not public.
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But he could have summed it up a bit. There you can say a little more about how you almost fell asleep at the 95-page lecture.
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I mean, he had almost just reported that the admission was so boring that he almost fell asleep at one point or another, because her voice was so monotonous when reading aloud.
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I don't know what to expect now, if you just make such a statement, such a "for least", whether you still have to do this with a certain acting talent, because that is the expectation of a Bernado.
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But I prefer that someone go there and say this as neutrally as possible, rather than for someone who then does it in an upper-performing way.
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If we were a theatre now, then of course I would expect that a text that you present, of course, would also be exciting to present.
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With mood, with suitable scenarios.
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Or adapted with the voice.
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Yes, exactly, with appropriate dialogues and so on. But that's not the case.
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but it's her view of things, it's her statement that she probably worked out with her lawyer,
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where she has not admitted guilt, but has answered questions in this 95-page statement,
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This may have been done in the previous procedure.
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By the way, there was the rule on the day that the other side should ask virtually no questions.
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Yes, that's right.
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So she's just saying it from her point of view.
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And then it is clear that if she reads a text that she probably evaluated with her lawyer beforehand, so that this is also all safe,
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that she tries to present this as monotonously as possible, because any emotion at a wrong moment in this text could also have a negative effect on her.
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Because even then, perception still plays a role in how it is perceived when you present it.
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She did it right from a legal point of view.
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Regardless of whether she is the perpetrator or not.
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It's just about general processes.
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And I think Bernardo's is exciting.
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Above all, there are many people who expect such a trial to take place as on television.
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Oh, you mean Saleh and Holt and what they were all called.
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So with a lot of drama, yelling, fines, judicial officers who have to drag some people out.
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That's right. And that, above all, such a trial felt to be over in 30 minutes,
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Just as long as there is such a consequence.
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And that has nothing to do with reality. It's scripted, it's very short.
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In a true trial, especially when it comes to serious crimes,
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These processes take a very, very long time.
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And there are not without reason very, very many trial days.
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Except one case is really 100 percent clear and substantiated, then there are fewer process days.
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Even if you catch the killer with the gun still in his hand next to the body and all traces fit, it will take more than 30 minutes.
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That's right. Even if the perpetrator admitted the crime.
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That's right.
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Directly. I just wanted to get out of it.
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Such interviews are ongoing, investigations are ongoing and all these results must be presented.
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also the classifications of the environment and in order to try to get a holistic picture
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about the situation, about Fabian, about all those involved actually for one
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to make a decision. In the end, that's what Bernie thinks.
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He missed it when he was there. Yeah, it was just boring for him. He would rather
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Maybe I had a little more action. Maybe someone else should have jumped over the table and
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"You old man" and so on and so forth. I'll kill you!
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Maybe then, I don't know, he should take a look at a WWE event.
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This goes far beyond normal boxing. There is more and more show,
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Like everything else. For example, with a folding chair you cover the other one and so on.
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Perhaps he should attend such events or a play.
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So as part of a project at the school, we participated in several court hearings
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and then had to make reports and I can only say one thing, there were criminal trials
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And yes, what can I say about that? They were boring, uneventful. The perpetrator
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came in, the prosecutor, they were presented with the accusation, then there was just evidence
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sometimes officers were interrogated and other witnesses and then there was such a thing
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Usually in less than an hour. And that was deadly boring,
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If you are not interested in it. We took our notes back then as students and
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As a homework, they drafted a report. I bet with you for my
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Game console that your report was much better worked out back then as a student,
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Perhaps also from a journalistic point of view as what Bernie has given of herself. Am I right about that?
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That could be. So I'm talking about it now, if you get a note like this that tends towards 1,
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then one would assume that this was already the case, that it just satisfied the claim,
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which the teacher had there for the preparation of a report.
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So we agree, because I have to ask, because then we come to the reason why I suspect he was there.
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But that's just my personal opinion.
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Do we both think that his reporting had nothing to do with journalistic work?
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The way he sold it anyway.
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Wasn't that journalistic?
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No.
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I suspect, sorry Bernardo, that you just wanted to sit right in the front row in such a murder case.
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No, no, I don't think so. No, that won't have been so profane that he wanted to sit there and just have a look at what it looks like.
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I think he might have wanted to see a little emotion. You don't know,
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Perhaps he would have liked to hear more details about the act, considering how the
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was after this attack at the CSD, where he was quasi at the crime scene, on the meadow, where the car along
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He drove into people's homes and streamed them live.
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Yes, I know you mean yes.
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And has even evaluated in the livestream,
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while he just filmed all the people without asking them
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in their grief, as the vehicle so
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over the meadow and into the crowd.
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Yes, so he almost visually imagined himself,
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how the car drives over the meadow and has it so
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Communicate in the livestream.
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I thought it was pretty perverse.
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This is my personal opinion,
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To do this when there are really people,
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who really grieve and who are stunned, not without reason
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By the way, there was also a lot of police on the meadow next to it.
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Yes, he can be glad that they didn't know,
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He streamed live.
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Yes, there were people standing up who noticed that he was filming,
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They were uncomfortable and they left.
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Someone should have gone to the police again.
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Say hello, something's happening.
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Yes, for example, there were two women behind him in the meadow.
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Then they got up.
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They looked at each other, they looked at him.
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It was noticed that they were uncomfortable.
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Then he's on two weeping women all the time,
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They were in their arms, filmed.
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Over and over again.
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Or at the Brandenburg Gate he also filmed the whole people, plus the memorial.
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Plus the kids running around.
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Right, again and again through the picture.
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And then came his lack of historical knowledge.
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When he made a pilgrimage from the Brandenburg Gate to the Tiergarten, he passed the memorial.
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Yes, the Holocaust memorial.
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Holocaust memorial, exactly.
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And also this non-knowledge that it is a monument and why this monument stands there.
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Pooh, I'm gonna have to swallow it.
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What am I supposed to say about that?
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As a native Berliner.
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No, he's not a native, he's attracted, but he's been living in Berlin for 15 years or so.
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Okay, but he lives there for 15 years. A man of a certain age should be
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have a certain knowledge of history and he should also deal with culture a bit
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and also with monuments. Yeah, it's the beginning, it's the middle of 60, so hello?
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Yes, I'm always shocked at how little he has historical knowledge, but well. In any case,
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when I call this in the back of my mind, as I said, how he tried to do the deed there
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reconstruct. I don't know if it was sensationalism, but not in the form of
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Press interest, i.e. not out of journalistic interest, but simply as a private person.
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Yes, and I always have to think about The Queen Mile. This is my personal opinion.
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And if you want to know what I'm thinking, there's the sadistic Bachmann.
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Percy Whitmore. It's all in a prison, and he's an overseer in Block E.
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A death row.
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That's right. And he gets his job there only thanks to vitamin B and that actually
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Not because he's really interested in the job, but that's it.
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A bit of sensationalism. Yes, and also satism.
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And there is a scene where Paul Edgecombe, played by Tom Hanks,
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the ladder is, the guard troop from Block E, where he talks to Percy Whetmore,
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Percy had already noticed negatively in Block E on several occasions.
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In a conversation with Paul Aitchcombe, he says,
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I want Brutal's place at the next execution.
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Seeing a man die is not enough.
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You have to be able to smell it like cleaning your eggs.
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I just want to be at the forefront.
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That's all, come on, just once.
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Yes, that was a very, very hard place in the movie, I thought.
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And somehow, as I said, if that's just my personal opinion, it kind of affects me.
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Because if you don't work the whole thing out journalistically,
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Then what is the reason why you want to go there and watch?
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It's the same as a rescue operation.
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Yes, if I do not actively participate and help.
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Then what do I do there?
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Yeah, you've got a lot of people pulling out the camera that's not from the press.
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They're holding the camera.
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This is called a gaffer.
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Yes, I know that from my work,
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the paramedic in civil protection,
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where I had to do services again and again,
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Even on weekends and then you have to deal with Gaffa.
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And that's the handling.
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It's not even that easy.
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But I also find, for example, another situation,
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which has been livestreamed for the last few days,
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We talked about the fact that there was a
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A book, an entry in
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I don't know, I don't know what the name of the book is.
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In any case, where you record such incidents as security guards.
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A prison over one, the one, yes, the inmates, exactly.
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And there it was, that Gina H.
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Increased probably
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He was half naked in the cell.
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There was speculation as to why this is so.
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So after the chat exploded and said yes,
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that she would be in there because she tried somehow,
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Possessing guards in order to gain advantages from this, which also affects their personality
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It would be highly manipulative to wear, to ascribe. But Bernardo has a much easier
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I had an explanation. Maybe it was too hot in the cell, too, due to the fact that
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that it is warm weather, you can ventilate such a cell badly, she has her clothes
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I got rid of it because it was too hot in the cell. And there was also a nice interaction with
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The chat and it just boiled down to it all being very ambiguous.
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So I think it's generally very questionable from the chat, because that's very invasive,
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In my opinion, to evaluate such a thing. You might think so in private.
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I think in public in a chat you should not discuss such a thing, especially in the case of the
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Seriousness of the case we still have here. I just find myself among everyone
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That's it. I also find it among all the sow from the point of view of a woman, like other women in the
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In the chat to suggest something like this to another woman?
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Yes, completely different things have happened.
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So a caller also has Bernhard in a night conversation, I think that was,
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or balcony whispers, even thinking about what she would do,
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If only she'd like to spend a night with her alone in the cell.
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That didn't look very good for Gina H.
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Yeah, but you don't talk about that in a public livestream, folks.
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No, you don't.
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This is not discussed in the chat and this is not discussed in a call.
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No, that would have been Bernado's responsibility to end the conversation on the spot and
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To make it right or to make it clear that this is not working.
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We have no lien justice or vigilance,
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But the woman, the guilt is established or not.
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And you have to live with it.
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Correct, regardless of whether she is guilty or not.
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And I just find it under all the guns.
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If that were our live chat and we were live, we would have been moderating the people out.
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I can't do that.
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No. Excuse me.
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I would have apologized too.
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Just now. With the spectators.
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Yeah, I would too.
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You also have to go through it as a host, as a streamer.
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One must also put one's spectators in the barriers,
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This is absolutely cross-border and cannot be done at all.
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But that doesn't happen.
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If I regularly watch the Shetang and you let it rotate freely or there are also, they said, instructions that certain statements in certain directions are allowed with the moderators, then, well, you do not have to talk about that there is conscientiously moderated.
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Yes, that's true, unfortunately. It must also be said that in relation to this issue, the
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Frank, of course, said. Yeah, now you want to open the next topic, don't you?
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We can do that right away. Okay.
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Yeah, so it's kind of a leader on the next issue. Frank, of course, could
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Of course, this statement, which I have just quoted from Bernie, should also be used,
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Because it also worked very creepy on him independently of us. And yes, Frank in general
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He is also a person who likes to share. Yes, just like the Bernardo and the two play
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Yes, ping-pong and don't give much in this regard, you have to say. No, at all
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And of course the next gate was opened again, the next excitement.
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I don't know if you'd say that opened or the next mud pit was opened.
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Yes, the next round.
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Well, would you like to open the topic now?
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You're welcome to do that now.
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Oh yes, the theme is the ping-pong game between Bernardo and Frank.
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According to Bernardo's statements about the broadcast of Gina, there were funny stories on Instagram.
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And Bernie had first taken pictures of how bad and how vicious Frank is.
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Then Frank took funny pictures of Bernardo and the situation.
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And that he almost writes a love letter to the Gina H.
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And then there were pictures of Bernardo again.
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The whole thing culminated in a presentation of a fictitious love letter to Gina Hart, which Bernardo wanted to give him the lawyer on the next visit to the court process.
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But then the prosecutor would have looked over nicely and he just had the problem,
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that there was now a divisiveness as to whether he shouldn't rather get involved with the prosecutor,
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Because he is still at large and Gina Haya is currently in pre-trial detention.
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Ah, you're talking about the deepfake video?
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Yes, then there was a deepfake video that Frank had made, where the original soundtrack from this fictitious love letter that Bernardo had just rehearsed in his balcony feelings or night thoughts.
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Ah, so that was a written letter. He almost read it at the moment, because I didn't know that he had read the letter there.
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I don't know if I actually wrote a letter or if it was so freely spoken.
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I only know that he had just signed the original, so that he had just made a letter.
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Yes, but I just wanted to know if he made these statements, which he asks, then used,
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in the context of the love letter or whether that was just such a blatant statement quasi by Bernardo,
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Which, of course, was satirically meant to trigger for Frank.
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That was, of course, a satirical tip against Frank,
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because Frank had assumed in the caricature,
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He would write a love letter.
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Okay, that was basically Bernie's auditory response.
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Frank then made a video of it, a deepfake.
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Yes, yes.
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Where he faithfully inserted this statement.
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Yeah, so he's impersonated.
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A character who just recites the original text, because that was the original voice of Bernardo, the original audio track.
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And then he animated it with a figure that looks like Bernardo.
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Oh, my God, no.
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I found the video really borderline, but also funny.
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It was a funny tip.
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Yes, it was satire.
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Since I like satire myself and find it very funny, I actually found this a good counter.
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The other side didn't like it very much.
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It was even assumed that he made cuts there,
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That he never said that.
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But he said that exactly because it was a literal excerpt from Bernado's video material.
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Yes, I mean, I don't know now, I haven't laid the tracks on top of each other now,
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If the Frank hasn't cut out a break somewhere or something so that it's ruffled.
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But on the whole, that was what the Bernado said in the livestream.
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Yes, yes.
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Well, what was it made of? The big sacrificial staging?
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Yes, of course, the evil, evil Frank. But wiping out the images that were previously generated with AI for the Frank 1 was fine again.
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You don't talk about that. That's perfectly fine as long as it goes against Frank.
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But you don't like your own medicine when the counter-attack comes.
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Yes, yes.
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And then even a criminal complaint is made.
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You have to think about that.
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At least that was threatened.
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Yes, well, there is a general threat in this coat of arms with "I show you, I
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Go to the lawyer.
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Somehow everyone, not only the bad side, but also the good side. Everyone is threatening
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I'll show you, you get mail from my lawyer, there's a warning.
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I can only say, the poor officials who have to take this up, the poor prosecutor's office,
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who really has to deal with such a nonsense, where there is really a lot of
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More blatant offenses go, where then because of such a thing there are no capacities, I also think,
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Let me know what kind of kindergarten this is. Well, just see the good thing about it,
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At least the lawyers make money. Yes, greetings to lawyer Bos on the spot
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and other media lawyers. You already know why you took media law.
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So in my next life I study law and then I become a media lawyer.
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So really.
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Yes, definitely. The cool thing about this is that legal expenses insurance usually does not cover media law.
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I don't know anyone who has that.
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Yeah, you, I don't know for sure. That's why I usually say.
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Because it may be that there are insurance companies that cover media law, but then the police are very expensive or something.
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There is such a thing as a creator liability insurance and there would be that in it, but it costs
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And, of course, something.
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Yeah, that's expensive.
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I mean, at 350, 360 Euro hourly rate, yes, that sucks together very quickly.
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I mean, if you look at the cases of the more well-known and larger YouTubers,
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or sometimes 10, 20,000 is powdered within three months only for lawyers.
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Yes, you know where the money is.
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Yes, the funny thing is, these ads make sure
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that there is usually a counter-notice,
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Because of course no buck bumps alone, as you always say so nicely.
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No.
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There are always two involved in a dispute, and it is usually the case that the
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The other side has done something reprehensible in some way, which is why the
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People then sue each other, which is why there are two trials because they
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They all want to give each other one.
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And in the end, it all costs thousands of euros, where the community first takes the purse
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Ask them to support their creator.
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They all pay for it from their own cash register. There are no fundraising campaigns.
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That's what I've come up with now. Sorry, I've never had one.
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Streamer seen from our Wabel asking for donations for litigation. Never before.
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Yeah, so I haven't seen one yet. I'm sorry.
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Sorry, I must have figured that out somehow. I don't know either.
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Yes, but in this context, that there are now threats with advertisements and lawyer and so on and
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I'll never talk about him again for the tenth time, yes, that's the double standard,
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ne? So interesting. I mean, we've been accused of being the biggest and worst haters.
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at all. Yes, yes. And hello? Especially Bernardo. Yes, in the direction of Frank. We
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It would be Frank's biggest and worst incitement. We would be indirectly co-responsible,
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What happened in March of the District Court, Higher Regional Court in Cologne. We would be indirect.
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We are partly responsible for, because we have been reporting badly about Frank for years, for several years.
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Yeah, we weren't even there for a year at the time Bernardo said that.
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We were there for just nine months, more like eight months.
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And indeed, of course, there were statements and such that perhaps went too far and such,
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There is no need to talk about it, we are also reflected on ourselves. But by and large
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We have always only talked about the public escapades about which we are critical of the media.
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We have classified it from our point of view. What is publicly available. Live streams, Instagram posting, community postings and so on and so on.
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What everyone can see, we have reported, arranged and confirmed our opinion.
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Only then was it still so that it was all very one-sided and all this was only contrary to Frank.
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Yes, it was very monothematic, always against Frank.
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It must be said, however, that what he had accused and reproached us,
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It operates in the purest, most distallized form.
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Although he hasn't wanted to talk about Frank for months,
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Frank is constantly the subject in several live streams a day.
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That's right.
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There are sometimes up to three live streams a day.
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And well, I'd say, who's the bigger instigator?
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That's right. So if I were to add up our total time of hours,
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Podcasts are always very long.
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We probably don't even get to the time Bernie is full of.
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Bernie felt full in a week of this time that we spent all together.
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And his statements are much, much more blatant. They go under the belt line.
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And that's a level we've never moved to.
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No.
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No, not in that style. As I said, there were also spikes. They were with us,
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We know that too. It was also not right for us to report only one-sidedly what we did,
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Because we were just talking about Frank. That's something we're doing differently now.
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We look beyond the horizon and also illuminate other sides.
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We also illuminate ourselves.
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And almost no one in the community actually gives themselves anything.
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That is always the important point.
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The only thing that always matters is who are the main players right now.
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What are the current stories that are being told?
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It's not like there haven't been enough other stories in the last few weeks.
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Also from other content creators you could have told.
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But in fact, we have now decided to talk about this part.
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This does not mean that other content creators have not made any mistakes.
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And by that, I mean you more impulsively. But also with you will of course again
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Follow up because I'm sure you won't stop with Frank because you're sleeping
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Certainly also in bed linen from Frank and meanwhile you certainly have a pillow
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from Lautfunk, where you naturally deal with these characters again and again, because you totally
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obsessed and so you can be sure it will continue
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Again give material, where we also pay attention to you a bit more. You
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Don't feel left out, that's very important. But you have to
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I find this ping-pong game very interesting. For people who don't
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To know or not to know. I'm sure most people will know.
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from our listeners. Bernardo says something in the evening, which might be for the outsider
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It may seem stupid. It's because he may not know something or because he knows something wrong.
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Or because he misunderstood something. And in the breakfast club the next morning
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Tell Frank about it and make fun of it. In the evening it stirs Bernardo
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back up, then pull out his program. Then the breakfast club will talk about the statements,
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Those who were hit were made fun of again. Then, of course, run again.
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Image action in the stories on Instagram.
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It's like a self-reinforcing cycle.
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So you have to imagine that, it's like a bullet,
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who walks on such a round track and like such a cat,
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which hits the ball again and again a bit and which then again and again
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Once in a circle, once in a circle, maybe a little faster,
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A little slower.
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But basically, this is such a self-reinforcing cycle.
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And then it gets excited.
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Strangely enough, there is only one party.
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And what I often don't see is self-reflection.
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But I don't see that in both of them.
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No, no, neither do I.
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This is always fueling each other.
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All sides have their different motives,
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They can also be found somewhere on certain levels.
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With "no reason", as it's always called, you don't do something.
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But it's just that one side says we are the good and the other the bad and the other side says that in the opposite sense.
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The fact is that both sides or all sides contribute their part to this dynamic.
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Yes, this is the same with the content creator as with the viewers.
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So I can still remember a passage from one of the later streams at Bernardo, where he listed various characters from this bubble.
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So Impulsiva, Da Vinci and so on and then with the spectators together.
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We are on the right side, on the right side.
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1:06:59 – 1:07:00
Statement by Bernardo.
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1:07:00 – 1:07:08
Exactly, Bernardo's statement. The interesting thing is that with Frank and there the people, that also the
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1:07:08 – 1:07:13
Chat is of the opinion that you are also on the right side, on the good side.
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1:07:13 – 1:07:18
That which I personally, and that is my personal opinion, have noticed,
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What I've noticed when it comes to these issues now, and I'm not talking here now
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from the feelgood themes that both have, so Frank and Bernardo, then the chat is with Frank
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More enjoyable to read, like the chat at Bernardo.
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1:07:38 – 1:07:46
Sure, because the chat is moderated at Frank, where you also tell people when they talk about it
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People turn back a gear.
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Yeah, that's right. This happens on the one hand, but it is also, I believe, so that the audience reacts differently.
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I mean, you read the same names over and over again. And Bernardo always reads the same names.
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Now you can read these names but also with other content creators, who also like to report critically about Frank.
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Everywhere is the same tone.
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Yes, and it is somehow not moderated.
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It's a very hard tone,
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Often very hurtful under the belt line.
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Yes, and that is tolerated.
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1:08:28 – 1:08:31
And I don't see that with Frank, not because it's with Frank.
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There are no critical voices either.
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1:08:34 – 1:08:36
But that's a very, very different level.
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Yes, even if people go and say,
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that what Frank is doing is not okay,
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1:08:42 – 1:08:48
This is discussed in the chat and critical voices are allowed.
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1:08:48 – 1:08:52
What is not allowed is harsh insults.
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1:08:52 – 1:08:55
But on the whole, a discourse is taking place there.
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1:08:55 – 1:09:04
And we mentioned earlier that the chat with Frank is more pleasant to read than with other people.
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There is almost a culture of discussion.
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1:09:08 – 1:09:16
Of course, it is allowed, even if many always assume that Frank is doing hard censorship.
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1:09:16 – 1:09:25
What he also did in part because there were many comments that disappeared at the time, regardless of whether it was now
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1:09:25 – 1:09:30
Comment writers had deleted their comments themselves or whether they were moderated out.
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1:09:30 – 1:09:37
That was the case, but that was not only the case with Frank, but also with many other content creators.
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1:09:37 – 1:09:40
And that is also something that is still being observed today.
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1:09:40 – 1:09:51
I think that has already changed with Frank, because he now allows much more criticism, also in the comments, I find.
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1:09:51 – 1:09:58
Yes, I, so when you look at the comments that are deleted,
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They are there and then they are no longer there.
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1:10:04 – 1:10:16
then it is noticeable that no matter in which camp there is quasi a house cleaning mentality.
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1:10:16 – 1:10:25
This was much stronger with Frank in the past, as it is now, but you don't have to put up with harsh insults.
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We don't do that either.
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So if someone comes in and says you're stupid, you can let it through.
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when a strong insult is used.
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1:10:36 – 1:10:38
Yeah, I don't have to let that pass.
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1:10:38 – 1:10:40
Yes, it depends,
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So a single comment with you is stupid.
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I won't let it through now.
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If I'd like to, of course I'd like to
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Constructive reasoning as to why the person sees it that way.
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She also likes to rewrite the word stupidly.
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And then you let such criticism through.
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Even if someone writes, I disagree, because in my opinion the process was so and so and so.
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1:11:09 – 1:11:14
This is my personal view. That would be something that would be okay.
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1:11:14 – 1:11:20
Constructive criticism usually does not work. Either because people haven't yet understood,
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How to express constructive criticism without insulting.
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Or because it's just about insulting other people.
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And that's why we moderate very hard.
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But that is also our decision.
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Among other things, it is the community's fault.
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'Cause when I think about it, since we've been in exchange with Frank,
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Wherever it was built,
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1:11:50 – 1:11:56
Wherever he said it, the comment and the comment are too blatant.
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Sometimes such comments slip through, such as with hanging rides or something else,
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When such a thing is commented upon. It's totally under the belt line.
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Yes, especially if one woman makes fun of another woman having hanging breasts.
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Yeah, that makes you look deep.
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1:12:14 – 1:12:22
Yeah, then I think so, so what? Guys, we're all, all the women here are tied to gravity.
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If the churches are still beautiful when you're young, it will be like this at some point.
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that it's automatically physics, yes, and age, ladder, then that just hangs with time something. It sees
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It's not as fresh and beautiful as it was at a young age. I mean, there are a lot of women,
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They are the least of them, the least of them, the least of them, the least of them, the least of them.
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It is part of ageing. And I don't think it's right that people,
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In particular, women do this to other women as the instrument of depreciation.
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What does the body have to do with humans?
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Yes, you're just letting go of something you can't do anything for, because it's just biology or something you can't do.
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Genetics too. And this, especially as a woman towards another woman, leaves in my opinion very deep
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Let's see what kind of spirit is behind it.
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That's right. First of all, you have to consider if you have at least something constructive.
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would have written. For example, I found the statement and the statement of XY stupid. Or I find the opinion,
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I think the person on topic XY is stupid, I don't share it. That would have been okay.
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But to devalue a person only because of something like hanging tits,
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This is not something that can change the person first.
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And it is only for defamation and insult.
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And of such comments, there are actually many
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And there have been many in the past.
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And we had already moderated a lot back then.
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Some things were overlooked when there were comments.
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Some people weren't as strict as they are today.
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Like I said, you are reflecting.
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You change the point of view and if, as I said, you look holistically outside the box,
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Then it's clear to one that no matter what direction such a comment goes,
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You have to moderate it reasonably.
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In addition, when we evaluate our data, we see that all comments are deleted.
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That's right. All of them without exception.
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Yes, it doesn't matter which of the content reactors we're watching, they delete all comments.
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That's a fact.
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And then there are the comments that are automatically filtered out, either
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via word lists or even YouTube has internal filters, which also filter out.
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And then it's always like this, because of, yeah, I'm injurious tape or something.
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No, if you use certain words that YouTube doesn't like, the comment will be deferred.
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If you're using words that the content creator doesn't like and they're on a
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Block list, then the comment is also withheld and must be released manually.
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It's normal.
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Yes, but ignorance, but the main thing is to throw words around like Shadowbun.
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Yes, and then people complain that comments are blocked and everyone
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Content creator also says, this is my channel, these are my rules. But that can then be done for him.
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There is no other channel. So I can tell you where Shadowbun
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It's really annoying. YouTube is very humane about it. No matter who you are, go with your
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TikTok channel in the livestream and tries to ask, for example, no idea how old
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Are you? You will see that this question no longer goes through. No, that's absolutely not going through.
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It is now completely shadow-colored and there are still quite, very many other triggers,
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But TikTok led thousands where you just see that they don't go through.
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You ask normal questions, you don't want to offend anyone or anything.
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It's not going through.
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And this is just plain crass, is what is increasingly noticeable.
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And if TikTok uses these mechanisms, YouTube uses them as well.
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This is not always the responsibility of the creator.
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Yes, then there is the fairy tale of the Shadowbun and that you still read the comments as a content creator.
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This is only partially justified, because if a user is completely hidden on the channel,
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These comments will not be deferred.
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You may still be visible to the commenter.
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But the content creator has never, ever seen this comment in life.
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Yes, because the comments are not put back by the people then, but they are
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They are simply blocked on the channel, they are blocked.
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If you block someone on WhatsApp, as an example, you can still
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write, but then you only have one hook in the chat, then you don't have your two hooks,
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because the message does not pass through, is not delivered and thus the counterpart can
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Do not read this message. Yes, but that's a good example. And that's just that,
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What happens on YouTube. It's almost like you're blocked and your message has only
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A hook. It never reaches the receiver. That's the difference. Whether I'm with a user
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set the comments to be deferred and must be confirmed or if I
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Block someone, exclude them from my channel. And we will continue to do so in the future,
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If someone has noticed negatively, they are directly excluded and blocked. What does it mean,
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If you leave a comment, there will never be another comment.
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We'll show up on the list where we decide whether to release it or not. I hope
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This is true for some people and especially in this context.
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When you comment on other content creators. Maybe this enlightenment will help,
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that you understand a little bit the mechanisms of action of YouTube or of others
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Platforms, how it works.
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Yes, but we skipped a topic earlier.
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Oh, do we have that?
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Yeah, actually. And I'd like to do that now, before we get to the next topic,
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Talk to me again. And that's a lot of new channels where viewers become content creators.
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Oh, man.
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So first of all I want to say, I think it's right, right of you, that you
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Advice from a previous episode of ours so heeded that from Rektal Digital 26 the
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Make your own channel to give your own voice more salary.
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I think it's great, really great.
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Yeah, me too.
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So no longer do others have to wage proxy wars for you.
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Yes, there is no need to hold others accountable for you.
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And then you can't get upset about it anymore,
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Yes, but I gave you the information, why didn't you do that?
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Say it.
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Yeah, I think it's great.
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Or you should have said so and so, you should have done this more blatantly.
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must. The cool thing is, now you can all do it yourself and from a certain
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I haven't listened to a podcast yet, which I will never listen to in the future.
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I'm going to do this because I just have a personal weight loss against this person and I'm allowed to do that.
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I have, too, that's mine. I find this particularly interesting. But what I
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it is also interesting, while in private she has such a big face in German
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said. Yeah, don't shoot all your powder now. Yeah, okay, well, then we'll come
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Right on top of that. I'm not allowed to, but definitely other content creators as well. I think it's good,
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You are now raising your own voice. I actually find it positive. Let's do this now
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Don't be a critique. If you have an opinion, no matter what the subject, it says so long as it is factual.
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is. It's good when people move interactively. And that's how everyone speaks.
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You can listen to different perspectives, you will be heard. That's also something positive,
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This shouldn't just be negative now.
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However, as I said, it is also good that, in particular,
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The negative characters are now unmasking themselves.
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We see them as negative characters.
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But that, as always, is a matter of opinion.
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It always depends on which side you are on.
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or on which side you are placed.
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That's right.
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No, I think it's good, especially when it comes to legal matters.
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People are fully self-responsible
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You are also legally responsible for your statements.
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to hold them accountable and not to substitute others for them.
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Yes, so I find some of the new channels
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In a way, entertaining.
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So if I
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I always listen to Faye Schauzou.
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That's a very quiet voice.
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If she gives her opinion on Frank Buttermann,
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You don't have to agree, but it's very solid.
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Very well reasoned.
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Please?
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Yeah, it's relatively factual, isn't it?
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her other stories she makes,
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when she talks about her culinary journey,
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I find them very exciting every time, I really like to listen to them when I cook.
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In the book recommendations I find this simply interesting, if you then stop over the content
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Why this book is so special to you and why is it so special to you?
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The memory remains.
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I think the series is kind of called "books that work".
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I just think it's interesting.
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Yes, then there is also here "according to thought", which always expresses her opinion very strongly,
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Maybe it's a little too over there. But that's their channel, their content,
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She's allowed to do that. And then there are a lot of others. Some do AI things,
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Which is more or less good. Mostly very bad, because there are a lot of mistakes.
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Maybe we should talk about why such mistakes happen. Yes,
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So I'm of the opinion, don't rely on others, make your own channels and have
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Always send your own voice out loud. As I said, say your own opinion. As I said,
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For those of you who, as I said, unmask yourself. I always find it kind of funny,
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For example, if you listen to a creator and actually have a different voice in the clocks,
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because what is said seems so familiar to you and also the wording as it is said.
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Ahso, you mean proxies, channels of war, which then follow almost a great propaganda.
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Yes, there is. Or there are channels that somehow feel like 1000 videos
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Sometimes six or seven pieces in a day are extremely bad.
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Why are they bad?
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Because it's bad prompts for a music generator, lyrical as well as the prompt,
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This is what generates the music.
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Ahso, do you mean that one said music channel of this person who also sometimes goes live
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Always drunk, in my opinion?
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At least you have the impression then.
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Ah, yes, I know who you mean.
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Yes, for example. But there are other channels that do this, too.
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where then always a little more lard is put in and then tried,
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Send some meta-messages. I mean, we make songs for others, too.
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And for ourselves.
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For ourselves, for Frank. And you can find that good or bad, that's
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Left to everyone themselves. So I think when a well-made song tumbles out of an AI,
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If you have thought about the text and put in work, thought about the prompt, where the characteristics of the piece of music are written, then you can also appreciate it.
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But there are also people who write three words and that is then stopped.
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And I always say, by the way, it does not matter who a song is about, but only how it is made from a technical point of view.
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How is the lyrics structured? Is it well-founded? Is it good? How's the music? That's how we evaluate it. Just so you understand, we're not devaluing a person now because they're acting for a particular site,
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But we only devalue the work itself.
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If, for example, he would really bring out such a bang, such a really horny song,
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with a really horny text and horny music, where you really thought,
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where you sit on it for a few hours and don't pop three words into the AI
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If I had the whole job, I would honor it.
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So you think that you have to invest a bit of time in order to keep a
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Creating a reasonable work?
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Yeah, and then I'd even honor it.
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Maybe I would even say that if he gets a good piece of work out, then share it.
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It's on Instagram.
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No matter against whom, just to reward for the work.
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You mean good sarcasm, nice lace?
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Yes, no matter against whom, whether this is against Frank, against us, against the dear Lord God, Lord God, yes, it does not matter.
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If a song is really well-produced, I'll honor it.
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Yes, I mean, there was already one or the other K.I.B.L., where I said, oh, that's fitting.
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I don't honor inferior work. That's just the point.
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Then I'll be with you.
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So, now I would say, let's get to the point you just tried to tease.
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We have a very special tame that we are talking about.
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Unfortunately, we have to do it all over again.
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Actually, we haven't talked so much about them yet.
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No, not really, but I think she wants to be addressed.
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So let's just say that we are almost in a video ourselves, where we are not the subject.
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Subject.
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And every time.
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Because that's what Sabrina Frank is, we're for Victoria.
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So for the V-perspective.
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Yes, you have to imagine being at her home for sure
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the wallpapers are now fully scribbled,
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where you write the theories about Lautfunk.
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So you mean, like, in the basement, where there's a stand like this,
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where photos are on it and then pin needles are in it and then red threads make connections and so on.
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Yeah, and I see a Victoria standing her hair up when she's home.
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I don't know if you've seen the movie 102 Dalmatians, the real-life film adaptation of Disney.
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There is Cruella de Vil in a hospital, where she suddenly no longer wants to use animal fur,
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to make mushrooms, because she likes to wear animal mushrooms.
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And in the first part she is totally obcest with the Dalmatians, so she comes to this hospital.
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And then suddenly she is no longer.
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She can even cuddle with Dalmatians in her cell,
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in the other cell there is a fox with a rabbit
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They eat from a carrot together.
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Accordingly, they no longer attack.
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But the whole thing has a disadvantage.
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Cruella de Vil is dismissed because she is considered purified,
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But all of a sudden, when they turn on the TV, they find that if
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the Big Ben rings, that's the big clock in London, the tower, that's a landmark,
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It's a big bell, that's why it's called that.
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In any case, they suddenly notice when the bell is heard on the TV,
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that suddenly the hypnosis virtually subsides and the fox is the rabbit, the cat is the chick.
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And at this moment Cruella de Vil runs across the bridge, almost barred, while it is still purified.
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And all of a sudden, her hair starts to stand on end, strand by strand.
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Your fingernails suddenly become very long and get through the gloves.
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And suddenly she sees points all over the buildings.
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The buses, the red phone booths in London, suddenly everything is white and has points.
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Because she is called back to her madness.
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And so figuratively I imagine it.
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Well, let's just say it's so extreme that when we do a live that
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a few minutes after a statement there an Instagram story is made and then
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follow another Instagram story and then follow another one and then another one and that
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some things that are said in the livestream, commented live in the Instagram Stories
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will be. That's striking, yes. First of all, you have to say, you have to do it again.
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Let's talk about the dynamics. This was our first livestream after many weeks.
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second overall on YouTube. And this was the first time we've really been in the name of the canal.
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You, too, have briefly commented on Lautfunk. The V-perspective is called V-paranoia.
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The whole thing is well-founded, in our opinion. In any case, it is so,
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We were good with Victoria. She used to be part of our bubble or we
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We were once part of their bubble.
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We had our own bubble in the bubble.
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We had our own group where she was a member.
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They were also in private exchange.
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Of course, it was mainly about Frank, because that was the reason why this
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There was a group.
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They were in exchange.
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And even then there was already this behavior, that when the TV chat chest a video
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or had made a livestream that the events were commented on in real time.
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Exactly.
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And I would say so as long as we have confirmed the opinion and continue to do so.
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We also added our mustard and continued to do the podcast against Frank.
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Everything was fine. She was a huge fangirl. I mean about her
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There was even the statement that we felt like their favorite podcasters. Yes, but we have
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Heard of some others as well. So that she really likes to hear all this. funny
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But the characters you talk about change and you distance yourself for reasons
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from this bubble and looks more extensively and thematizes this, you are suddenly quite evil.
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Viktoria had been in contact with us on a daily basis, be it in a group or privately.
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Privately, we have not written as often as in the group, but also very often.
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You have also built a relationship with that other person.
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In particular, I have built a relationship with this person, where you can already say,
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It was almost a friendly relationship.
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Insofar as an online friendship is a true friendship, which one considers to be true friendship.
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Take the coin.
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So that's what everyone decides for themselves, how much weight you put on such a relationship …
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Yes, but I would say that it was towards a friendly relationship.
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Relationship went, yes, in any case.
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Frank, of course, was the topic of how they found each other.
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But they also exchanged ideas about everyday life, about private things.
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But these are all things that we would never discuss in a podcast.
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Even private things like that we never communicated such things with Frank.
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Exactly. And that is also a point.
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We are constantly accused of keeping the most private secrets.
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He passed it on to Frank.
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And no, we don't.
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No, because if you know Frank, because you hate Frank, as I said, don't like him, you would have said to the mild, you hate him,
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You should know how Frank works.
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Sorry Frank at this point, I don't mean bad either.
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But it's like giving Frank information, just like giving it to Sabrina.
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They're gonna be kicked out.
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They're gonna be kicked out.
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Yes, yes.
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If it is expedient to leave another person in a bad position, then
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Throw that out.
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Or if it almost strengthens the side.
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That's it.
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And Victoria, if we had done that, you know what you told us,
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You could assume that Frank's statements would have been much more blatant.
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That you would have had at least one reason to freak out like that.
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Yes, and just because one had told a story, when asked what was the worst,
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What was said, what you would do with Frank, was that it was said,
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I'd like him to climb onto his skylight and die on top of it.
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Just because they said it was the worst, now it's being interpreted.
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You have all secrets, all private information, all shads, all complete
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Handed over to Frank.
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Yes, and not only would they have told him about it, but we would have explicit screenshots
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made or would have forwarded original messages to him, forwarded.
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It would have been a big data breach if we had done so.
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And no, dear Victoria, again, we have not forwarded a single voice message,
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No screenshots or anything in that direction. Never.
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That was the only statement we made.
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And you know, Victoria, we could have told you more, but we didn't.
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Not because Frank wasn't interested, but because we just said we're not talking about it, despite your behavior that you live online.
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Now we come to that, too. This is the second time that we have mentioned you so explicitly on our channel since you founded your channel "Die V-Perspektive".
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The first time was last Wednesday, when we finally talked about it, where you have already discussed us in countless podcasts on your channel, without us having commented on it in any way.
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The only thing we said was that we invalidated it because it was simply a
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False statement is and a false factual claim that we would have given screenshots to Frank
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or any private files or content from you. That's what we said to Frank, and that's what he said.
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We have also voiced in our livestream and that is our right if you make such accusations.
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Put it in the room so we can get it right. I mean quite simply, show us, we give
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all devices at the police, they can take care of the data backup, the things
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go through and see if there are any messages with content from you that we
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Frank sent it. I'm really, really, really excited about it, and it's going to be the same.
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That's because it's all
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They lie and lie about what they do.
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Tell me why this hasn't happened yet.
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The other thing could of course
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She is afraid that if she
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A criminal complaint has been filed that we
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to their data. Little mouse, we
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You will also receive your data if
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We would report you. There would be
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Police are also investigating your data. me
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I don't think that should be your fear.
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I think the point is simple, and you know that we don't.
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have done.
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Yes, yes.
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But it is wonderful to paint a certain picture.
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Yeah, that's it.
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You want to defame Lautfunk.
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You put such a beautiful frame on it and then determine the events.
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You tell the truth a little bit and then paint a little over the edges,
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Yes, so it fits.
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That's right, exactly.
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And just because we don't say anything about it,
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Doesn't mean that everything you say is true.
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Yeah, it's right.
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And we can also assume that today, when this is published,
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Shortly thereafter there will be a lot of stories,
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where a Victoria is indignant about it, about the untruths that we have asserted again.
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And again countless podcasts on her channel, blog posts when she goes crashout again.
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But I just want to say one thing, as I said.
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After Frank was attacked in court and we distanced ourselves hard,
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Is this displeasing to some people from our bubble, who were also of the opinion,
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It doesn't look like a broken jaw, etc. pp. And quite other statements that we do not want to quote here.
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There are also enough comments on all possible channels where these statements are made.
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Because people also ask themselves, why do they distance themselves from it? We should have done it much earlier.
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Because some statements are just too blatant.
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And these people are partly devoured by hatred.
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I've always tried to offer people a change of perspective.
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I've always said, imagine, the one this happened to,
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It wouldn't be Frank you hate, it would be you, it would have happened to you.
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Or a relative of yours whom you like.
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Then things would suddenly look completely different.
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But on this change of perspective, no one can look at it and beyond the horizon.
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Because that would suddenly mean that you would have to reflect on yourself.
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And of course, this is a job that you don't like to do, especially then,
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if you want to draw the image of an enemy character.
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Yes, and I think that's just one reason for Victoria.
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With Viktoria, displeasure when we went live with Frank, spontaneously with TikTok.
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Yes, we went spontaneously and Frank came along and the chat said,
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The Frank is there and then just like we brought the Frank in.
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That's right, and Leon from TAR News was also in the livestream later.
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Leon was there even longer like Frank, so we also have a witness there.
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By the way, the original recording of the TikTok Live is of course available to us,
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But we didn't publish it, as other people have demanded, because
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First of all, you are not in a position to make any demands.
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You have to get off the pedestal.
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We are still people with free will and free will.
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And we do not allow ourselves to be blackmailed to publish any data in any way.
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But because we are nice and have come to meet you, we had the entire transcript of this
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TikTok livestreams released.
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This means all audio tracks, i.e. every entire word.
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The entire audio track.
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Exactly, from everyone.
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Then you would have had to make a hendarisch effort to evaluate it yourself,
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Because we don't take that away from you either.
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You can also be a bit proactive yourself.
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But there was nothing to it. Why not?
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They just complained that we should publish the video.
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Don't be so lazy and evaluate the news.
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The text is exactly there.
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It was mooted that we did not stand up strongly enough for Lexi in Victoria's eyes.
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Yes, because it was about the topic with 100 euros instalment payment, where I also said,
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1:46:22 – 1:46:28
The instalment payment is too low. But that wasn't enough. I should have done a lot
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1:46:28 – 1:46:33
To say more extreme. Yes, we should have escalated, we should have screamed,
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1:46:33 – 1:46:38
We would have insulted Frank, insulted him, and so on. These were all things,
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1:46:38 – 1:46:43
We were then also accused in the group, where we also said,
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Guys, we can't do that. We're in a live situation that's difficult anyway.
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It was spontaneous and not planned.
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Yes, and we can be accused of Frank simply having too much speaking time,
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But it's a live situation. We were a little bit too at that moment.
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was overwhelmed with it. But no, it was expected that we would have put it on the wall
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You have to tear it apart rhetorically.
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No, you can't bring certain things into a live.
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1:47:15 – 1:47:20
As I said, I'd like to say something about Victoria.
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When I think about how extreme your opinion of Frank is.
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1:47:25 – 1:47:31
If you were to say something like that in your private life, you'd say it on the podcast.
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1:47:31 – 1:47:36
If you're on the channel, you're probably struggling with legal issues as well.
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1:47:36 – 1:47:40
Yes, but with the same intensity and choice of words.
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That's right, you should do it on your channel.
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Because this is always something you have asked us to do.
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which we did not follow,
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Because we don't want ten million litigation cases.
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1:47:55 – 1:47:58
We'd like you to really
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In a podcast, just as much as you would in private.
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'Cause I'd say it that way if the criminal complaint fluttered into the mailbox
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or the lawyer presents you with an invoice, which you may pay first,
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Is this a bit difficult in the form of a warning or omission etc. pp.,
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It may even go on until a court hearing.
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I really want to see you there.
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You all always have such a big face in private chat
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1:48:35 – 1:48:39
and always demands from the people who are then the content creators,
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1:48:39 – 1:48:45
what they shouldn't say, what they shouldn't scrub all the information,
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They need to express themselves more radically, etc.
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These are the proxy wars.
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That's what I mean.
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And then you finally have the courage and start your own channel.
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And what's coming is you express yourself, but it's kind of wishy-washy anyway.
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Yes, it's a bit softer, because you know that it's legal.
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There may be consequences.
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Just and now I have to ask her the other way around, because the question must please her
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1:49:21 – 1:49:27
leave. Why are we criticized for being there with Frank at TikTok?
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They should have been more radical. Yeah, harder. - Harder that we should have put him on the wall, almost rhetorically.
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And why don't you do that? As for Frank. Why is it so soft and larifari?
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Ah, I forgot. Then there is the fear of consequences. But I see, very difficult.
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Yeah, yeah. I always say that when it comes to others, you can always talk a lot,
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When it comes to you, it suddenly looks very different.
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That's right. Oh yeah, a pity, a pity, a pity.
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But maybe you can understand that statement now.
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But you can't, of course, because you will, of course,
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When you hear this recording,
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Zero self-reflection and once again only attack.
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And what I said in the livestream, I'd like to repeat again.
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If we had the need,
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Dropping private information about you,
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Which, in my opinion, would be really down-to-earth.
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We don't do that because that's not our level.
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Then we would drop this ourselves in our podcast
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And we don't need Frank for that.
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Yes, but you have to say yes to that, Victoria a bit,
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Let's say it's more flexible, morally liquid,
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This is because it always drops the most private information.
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To Sara's state of health, to our living environment.
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Yeah, then hold on to other things.
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There are always a few things that fall.
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And yes, but woe to him, woe to him!
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You say something about some little things about her,
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then the great moral club is immediately taken out
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And the swung ones.
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Just, but I don't want to, for example, I emphasize that again, I don't want to,
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online, that's why it's kind of a ban from me,
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I ask you to talk about my personal illnesses.
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or about my state of health or, or, or online,
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Because this is a personal right.
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I don't want that.
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You don't want me to do that the other way around, do you?
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It's just a level, it doesn't have to be.
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That's what I mean.
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Please criticize us for what we say publicly.
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And then you don't have to go there and you almost have to dig in the dirt and you know exactly,
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1:52:19 – 1:52:27
What I mean by that. Instead, focus on what you say online on the podcast.
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What is publicly available to everyone. And you can criticize us for that.
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1:52:32 – 1:52:39
If you did that at this level, I wouldn't say anything. Then we could
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Media criticism may even be entertained on an equal footing. But what you do is not
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Eye level. What you do is try to dig in the dirt, defame a person.
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This is, as it were, undermining one's own moral claim.
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That's right. But to other people say that they must have a moral claim. Well,
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That's the way it is with you, it always depends on which side you are on.
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You know, Victoria, at this point I have to tell you one thing.
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Somewhere out there is a tree that produces oxygen.
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Go outside and apologize to him.
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Namely, your moral compass as far as this thing is concerned,
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It's a damn thing about the North Pole.
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Especially, as I said, when I think about whatever mindset you had, the Impulsiva
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Opposite and now, as I said, you are sitting there in your first episode, where you were there,
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He said a lot about you and not only about you, but also about others.
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characters who do not want to be named in order to protect their identity,
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They like to expose themselves in blog posts. Greetings go out. Or almost as a guest
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were. Also in the episode of Impulsiva, where she talks about Lautfunk, there was once Victoria
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1:54:17 – 1:54:23
As a guest and there was also someone on the phone. By voice message,
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By phone, it doesn't matter. But I also address this person directly. Do you actually have the
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Impulsiva also tells you what kind of mindset you had towards her and what you said
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have? I mean, I think that's really interesting. I find it really interesting.
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And then you talk about other people and you say that that's a change, like, for example,
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in the case of Sam or in the case of us. What are you doing yourself? That's double standards, folks.
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It is morally liquid. It is as adaptable as water. It's running around, it's circumnavigating obstacles.
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That's right. As long as you do it yourself, it's completely different. That's something completely
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Other, folks. As I said, we have changed our minds and there are reasons for that. We
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can even partially understand people who then denounce that and then say you're shit,
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Because you changed sides. But we really changed sides in the
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Don't sense either. Of course, we support Frank in a certain way. We now see
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In the meantime, it was a bit different, but still critical.
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Frank even enjoys a certain sympathy.
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We make songs for him on Sundays, because he can actually be quite nice.
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Because everyone has two sides.
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And that's always what I'm trying to tell people.
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Not everyone has bad sides.
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But for a change of perspective you will not be invited.
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You don't want to do that either, because you can't draw your enemy image anymore.
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And that's really, really, really a pity.
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And then one wonders where all this is supposed to lead.
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Yes, it's getting more and more somehow
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Escalate somewhere and people will stop.
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Let your love go, in whatever form.
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Borders are being crossed to a frightening extent.
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All this is accepted because we are the good guys.
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And you just see that.
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Some people don't shy away from anything.
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Especially those people who count themselves as the good guys.
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Yes, especially those who set a very high moral standard.
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Outwardly.
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And it's gonna be weird.
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Definitely.
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We've always said we're part of the problem.
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We're firing it up, we're giving it a reach.
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And we're not better than the others.
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We're just different.
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At least we try to think more broadly,
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We look at all the characters, especially ourselves.
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And I am also aware of the topic of self-reflection,
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This will make Victoria feel hard again.
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She can do that too.
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But of course we can also express our opinion.
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It's a ping-pong ball.
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She almost felt it before.
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100 ping-pong balls played against our wall,
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where felt nothing came back, except for a song with Frank and our Wednesday live and this one
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Statement with "fucking on the roof", that is relatively damn little, if I look at,
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How much airtime she has given us. And at some point when a person just
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Don't give up and mention one over and over and over and over again because they're a reaction.
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He wants to force. Here she finally has her reaction. Yes, but if she'll like it,
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That's another one. Yes, but it's the expression of opinion, as I said. And for that
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I don't have to dig in the dirt, Victoria. Like I said, thank God you did.
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I've told a lot in public. I have now also just told the other,
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for the viewers who don't know this story, so that they understand why Victoria is so
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obsess is with us. Because we weren't hard enough in their eyes in the livestream,
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Even more should have been Prolexi, which Frank had to regulate much more.
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All in all, the livestream was too friendly, as I said. And that you'll still be there
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He has distanced himself from the trial and so, oh my God, of course, that's not possible.
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Excuse me. But as I said, the livestream, that was the final point.
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By the way, on that day Viktoria voluntarily left the butter gusts Ultras herself
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Another member was kicked out of the group.
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For rectification, by the way.
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Yes, there were two volunteers and one, and then we kicked them out.
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That's right. And several Kulpa.
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Because of the erroneous accusation. Sorry for that. But it doesn't matter in the end,
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Whether people leave voluntarily or get kicked out. In any case, we had them even then
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blocked. And that for everyone? Yes, as I said, you are very happy to continue your war,
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But I say it again, as I said in the live, we actually have it at all
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No desire. If you want to continue this, please at least stay on the bright side
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And stick to what is said publicly. You are welcome to dissect this,
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Stay fair, right. And then nothing stands in the way of it. Go for it, do it.
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But as Viktoria almost always says in her intro that objectivity goes to sleep almost now,
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2:00:56 – 2:01:03
Now there is only subjectivity. Maybe you'd have more objectivity.
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Stand well to face and keep your subjective opinion for you a little bit more. I mean,
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It's clear, in an opinion format, that's kind of brain-teasing, but you can't always go, ask for yourself to say everything, unfiltered, but woe, someone else says something to and then that's exactly the opposite and super evil, very bad and you can't do that.
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Then it is staged again as a victim, then the whole bubble is rolled up again and the tears are very big, the crocodile tears, because then that is not okay.
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If Victoria does that, that's perfectly okay.
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As I said, self-reflection zero and someone who leads his content like that, that's my opinion, you can't take it seriously.
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Seriously, I do people who really communicate on an equal footing and actually break us up because of our podcast.
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I would even applaud that, because that would be a discourse, which would be really horny. I would even celebrate that.
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Yes and get upset that we say "V-Paranoia", but then sell ourselves as "Beklopptis" and so on.
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Do I find it difficult and double-moral?
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Well, I don't know.
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Victoria, what do you think?
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Yeah, I'd be interested.
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What gives you the right to do that to others and others can't give you a nickname?
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You started it.
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That's right.
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Yes, yes.
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Greetings go out to V-Paranoia.
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And if you go and get upset that we're supposedly publishing information we've been told in private, why are you constantly putting out things that have been entrusted to you in private or to you?
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That's right. With what right do you take this out? I'd like to know.
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know. One is a statement.
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Then I would like to know where, unlike you, we have scattered such information in public somewhere?
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We can say we don't have that.
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We also did not pass on information in private.
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No, unlike you.
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So much for our wife with the big V.
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That's right, so we said it all.
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I wish you a lot of fun escalating and with the new tips, with the new unfair
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Means you're gonna blow out.
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You know how you are.
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Everything else would really surprise me and as I said, with a person you don't really expect much from anymore because she has already shown her face, nothing surprises me anymore.
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But remember, my dear Victoria, you know, the ridge is narrow, until there may be breasts from the lawyer, in all your provocation and anger.
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As I said, try "keep smart" and try to comment or criticize on one level,
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which also has a certain level without violating the personality rights of others.
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I mean, you can bend, you can play ping-pong,
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Let's toss the content back and forth, but honestly, at the level I don't feel like it.
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And then I just say "That for Dania Tavarisch".
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That's right, we don't feel like it.
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But like I said, it would be nice if you thought about it.
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Otherwise, Victoria, is the road open to you?
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If you continue to be blocked on Instagram, of course,
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Because we are not interested in a private exchange as such.
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You can also write an e-mail,
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where you tell us in person,
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Maybe even out of your reflection.
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You know the contact details enough, that's all nicely distributed in the bubble.
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Maybe you can write us an e-mail, from your personal point of view, how you would rate it all.
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I would really be interested in it if there was a little bit left,
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to what extent you find this fair and that this is also fair to us.
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If you consider that there was a kind of friendly relationship,
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That you had months.
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Is that how you deal with people you once liked?
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I don't know.
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Well, yeah.
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Then I don't want to know how you deal with people you hate.
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Yes, yes.
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But she hates us now.
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Yeah, but you know what I mean, that's kind of metaphorical, so deep.
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Yeah, that's it.
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Well, do we have it now? Because I hope I don't have the last topic anymore. We've had more than two hours.
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Yeah, it's enough. And sorry people for being bored, but that was a personal thing.
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That was a personal concern for me.
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Yeah, that we've sorted this out. Exactly.
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Well, then what's left at the end?
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It remains to be said in the end that morality is somehow always very dynamic and it depends on which cardboard you are in and behind whom you stand.
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Yes, the question of moral standards is, I believe, always such a social question.
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And then with whom do I surround myself?
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And well, you realize that there is no established law for moral standards.
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So while one has done certain activities during his development period, which the other has also done,
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Is that all right? Very bad for the others?
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Yes, if you take this as a sort of moral bar,
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So it's no wonder that
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People are morally flexible.
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That's right.
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That's all I can think of.
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If you like what you've heard, you know.
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Write, hyp, hyp. Yes and otherwise I would say thank you for listening and
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Farewell to next time.
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The light goes out, the filter falls
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What's left of your perfect world?
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*Music*
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Look now, look very closely, the ring light is fading, the truth is standing still.
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You now!
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[Music]
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[See subtitles]
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Welcome to a new edition of Rectal digital! In this episode, we review the events of the last few days – as usual, directly, uncut and profoundly.
We illuminate Bernie's spectacular (and surprisingly uneventful) appearance in the courtroom in the Fabian case, analyze the endless ping-pong game between Bernardo and Frank, including deep-fake retaliation, and devote ourselves extensively to the new channels that shoot out of the ground like mushrooms. There is also a clear announcement on the topic of moral liquidity, shadow alliances and the permanent accusations from the V paranoia corner.
Sit back, bring popcorn and don't forget: Who sits in the glass house, should not throw with hard clubs.
Thematic breakdown:
Welcome & entry
- The current condition (migraine update) and a short warm-up.
Home-making & Community
- Review of the last livestream, the phenomenon of ‘non-participation’ and surprising channel memberships (Greetings to Boris).
Bernardo in the courtroom
- Reporting on the process (Fabian case), 95 pages of monotonous submissions, the definition of ‘journalistic work’ and the fine line between information and sensationalism.
The ping-pong duel: Frank vs. Bernardo
- Instagram stories, AI images, the fictitious love letter and the auditive deepfake response with announced paragraph riding.
Algorithms, Censorship and Shadowbuns
- Education about YouTube and TikTok mechanisms, manual releases, blockages and the hard tone in the comment columns.
Spectators become creators
- The foundation of own channels (file Lautfunk, V-Perspektive & Co.), own voices, proxy wars and the quality of AI-generated works.
Settlement with the V-Paranoia
- False factual claims, allegations of private disclosure, moral liquidity, and lack of self-reflection in the bubble.
Conclusion & Outro
- Summary about dynamic moral standards, social double standards and the final call to action.
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