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                                                               <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">00:00 - 0:00:15<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">[Muziek]<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:00:15 \u2013 0:00:18<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Hallo en welkom bij een nieuwe episode van degressie.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:00:18 \u2013 0:00:20<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Waar ik vandaan kom...<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:00:20 \u2013 0:00:23<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ja, dwaal af. Af en toe.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:00:23 \u2013 0:00:26<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Bijna altijd. Eigenlijk vooral.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:00:26 \u2013 0:00:28<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Op de een of andere manier.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:00:28 \u2013 0:00:33<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik dacht vandaag, laten we het hebben over symboliek.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:00:33 \u2013 0:00:36<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">symbolen. Memes.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:00:36 \u2013 0:00:39<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En daarom...<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:00:39 \u2013 0:00:45<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik had een paar collega's voor een podcast die ik nu doe.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:00:45 \u2013 0:00:50<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Het gaat om muziekproductie voor hobbyisten.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:00:50 \u2013 0:00:53<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En er was...<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:00:53 \u2013 0:01:00<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Daar heb ik het hele transcript, d.w.z. de zuivere tekst van de hele podcast,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:01:00 \u2013 0:01:03<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Gooide in Chat-GBT en zei:<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:01:03 \u2013 0:01:09<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Laten we eens kijken naar enkele van de onderwerpen in deze podcast.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:01:09 \u2013 0:01:11<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En dat is wat hij deed.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:01:11 \u2013 0:01:18<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En we spraken net in de podcast over een muziekbeurs, over duur mes eten,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:01:18 \u2013 0:01:27<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">over een verbod om uit te gaan vanaf zondag, omdat op de site waar de beurs plaatsvindt,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:01:27 \u2013 0:01:33<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Kikkers zijn aan het fokken of op zoek naar een partner.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:01:33 \u2013 0:01:38<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En over vele andere dingen ook.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:01:38 \u2013 0:01:46<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Onder andere was er zo'n grap dat het gewoon...<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:01:46 \u2013 0:01:51<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">De maximist... Hoe heet die naam nu?<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:01:51 \u2013 0:01:54<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Het maxisme.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:01:54 \u2013 0:01:58<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Er zijn ook trends in de muziekscene.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:01:58 \u2013 0:02:04<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En Chat-GBT is gegaan, heeft dit allemaal goed gelezen daar<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:02:04 \u2013 0:02:08<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En toen begon ik de foto's te maken.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:02:08 \u2013 0:02:18<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Aan de ene kant was er een vlag van de oude Sovjet-Unie, d.w.z. ster en sikkel.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:02:18 \u2013 0:02:29<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Dan was er Pepe de kikker en ik denk fruit of zoiets op tafel.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:02:29 \u2013 0:02:35<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Naast alle microfoons, mixer, synthesizer en zo.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:02:35 \u2013 0:02:42<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En mijn collega's zeiden toen, vanwege de EU-verkiezingen die we nu hadden,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:02:42 \u2013 0:02:47<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Dat kan niet met de communistische vlag.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:02:47 \u2013 0:02:55<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Bovendien zouden we slechts een paar minuten over het onderwerp hebben gesproken, misschien voor een minuut.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:02:55 \u2013 0:03:06<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En Pepe de Kikker, dat is een zeer bekende meme voor domme situaties,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:03:06 \u2013 0:03:14<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Iemand die zacht is, dat weet ik tenminste.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:03:14 \u2013 0:03:25<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Het komt uit het Q-Anon gebied.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:03:25 \u2013 0:03:29<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En nu moet ik erover nadenken.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:03:29 \u2013 0:03:35<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Dus Pepe de Kikker is daar denk ik ontstaan op de website 4chan.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:03:35 \u2013 0:03:41<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En dat was zo'n meme pagina, dus er waren altijd vier foto's.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:03:41 \u2013 0:03:48<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">4chan, dat zich net had ontwikkeld uit iets uit Japan,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:03:48 \u2013 0:03:54<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">waarin iemand de broncode had gestolen en vervolgens vier foto's in plaats van twee foto's had gemaakt.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:03:54 \u2013 0:04:02<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En dat was alleen voor zulke domme situaties,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:04:02 \u2013 0:04:11<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En dat is lang geleden, dus het gebeurt nog steeds op tijd voor 4chan.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:04:11 \u2013 0:04:19<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Anoniem, je weet wat ik bedoel, dit hackerscollectief is gevormd.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:04:19 \u2013 0:04:25<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Omdat iedereen anoniem is en als je anoniem post, sta je gewoon anoniem, anoniem gepost.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:04:25 \u2013 0:04:34<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En dat is wat Q-Anon deed ten tijde van de pandemie en misschien tot daarvoor.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:04:34 \u2013 0:04:40<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Het doet me ook denken aan de domheid van mensen.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:04:40 \u2013 0:04:46<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Blauwe harten, mensen, blauwe harten.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:04:46 \u2013 0:04:52<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Er is zo'n partij in Duitsland met drie letters, net als vele anderen,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:04:52 \u2013 0:04:58<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ze hebben vooral de kleur blauw.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:04:58 \u2013 0:05:06<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Het was ooit extreem liberaal, misschien zelfs een beetje meer economisch liberaal dan de FDP,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:05:06 \u2013 0:05:14<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">maar zijn nu een verzameling pool van, hoe noem ik het nu,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:05:14 \u2013 0:05:22<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">De juiste gedachten. En nog erger.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0.05.22 \u2013 0.05.29 uur<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En blauwe harten zijn gemaakt door mensen die dit feest vieren en het ook goed noemen,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:05:29 \u2013 0:05:35<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ze vindt het leuk om haar liefde te uiten in commentaren.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:05:35 \u2013 0:05:42<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Net zoals de zalmkilometer tijdens de coronaperiode werd gebruikt bij detacheringen,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:05:42 \u2013 0:05:51<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Om degene die antwoordde belachelijk te maken.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0.05.51 \u2013 0.05.56 uur<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Je slaapt, je weet niet wat er aan de hand is.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:05:56 \u2013 0:06:01<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Dit was geliefd bij de mensen die tegen het hele Corona-beleid waren<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:06:01 \u2013 0:06:10<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Of mensen die heel vreemde idee\u00ebn hebben, deze Schoblers, zoals ze zo mooi zeggen.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:06:10 \u2013 0:06:16<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En ik dacht zo en dacht zo,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:06:16 \u2013 0:06:29<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ja, alleen omdat bepaalde symbolen in het verleden door andere instrumenten zijn gementaliseerd,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:06:29 \u2013 0:06:35<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik kan bepaalde dingen tegenwoordig niet meer op deze manier gebruiken, behalve op bepaalde wetenschappelijke manieren.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:06:35 \u2013 0:06:43<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">of historische context, zoals een swastika, het zonnewiel en vele andere dingen,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:06:43 \u2013 0:06:48<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">als zeer gepigmenteerde voorbeelden.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:06:48 \u2013 0:06:57<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik bedoel, gewoon omdat een \"ongetalenteerde\" kunstenaar het op de een of andere manier had bedacht<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:06:57 \u2013 0:07:04<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Als symbool van herkenning voor zijn omringende partij, kun je het vandaag de dag niet meer gebruiken.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:07:04 \u2013 0:07:10<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik bedoel, het is een symbool dat in verschillende culturen over de hele wereld wordt gebruikt<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:07:10 \u2013 0:07:19<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En ja, dit is niet langer mogelijk, want er zijn veel slechte daden in ons verleden,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:07:19 \u2013 0:07:23<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">tijdens het Derde Rijk.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:07:23 \u2013 0:07:27<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Net als stop in, ik weet niet hoe ik de Schrift moet noemen,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:07:27 \u2013 0:07:35<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">in ieder geval deze zeer gekartelde SS twee flitsen of zoiets, je kunt ook in dit sterrenbeeld<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:07:35 \u2013 0:07:41<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">niet meer gebruiken, want dat staat dan voor de Waffen-SS, voor een troep soldaten<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:07:41 \u2013 0:07:47<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">van het Derde Rijk, die werkelijk buitengewoon gruwelijke wreedheden hebben begaan.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:07:47 \u2013 0:07:58<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En ik vraag me nu af, behalve voor dingen die nu echt grondwettelijk problematisch zijn,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:07:58 \u2013 0:08:05<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Hoe ver kan ik me nu laten verbieden om Pepe de kikker te gebruiken,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:08:05 \u2013 0:08:12<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Behalve dat ik het risico loop gewaarschuwd te worden omdat de originele artiest veel waarschuwt.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:08:12 \u2013 0:08:25<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Verbied me om deze dingen te gebruiken omdat sommige idioten en mensen,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:08:25 \u2013 0:08:36<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Degenen die weigeren de realiteit te accepteren, gebruiken het om hun ideologie of inhoud te vertegenwoordigen.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:08:36 \u2013 0:08:45<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En ik weet niet hoe je erover denkt, maar als ik erover nadenk,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:08:45 \u2013 0:08:54<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">dus zeer eenvoudige leestekens, hoe vaak deze nu worden gebruikt om haatboodschappen over te brengen<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:08:54 \u2013 0:09:00<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">of verspreid het zo, dan zou ik geen uitroepteken meer mogen gebruiken,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:09:00 \u2013 0:09:13<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">omdat daarmee alle slechte orders, berichten, haatberichten, haatcommentaren<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:09:13 \u2013 0:09:21<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En zo verder om geschreven te worden. Of laten we zeggen dat ik veel liefde heb voor content creators.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:09:21 \u2013 0:09:28<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ze gebruiken graag het groene hart. Als Friday for Futures geradicaliseerd zou worden<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:09:28 \u2013 0:09:35<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En als ik het identificatiemerk, het groene hart, zou nemen, zou ik het niet meer kunnen gebruiken,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:09:35 \u2013 0:09:47<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Of ze kunnen het niet meer gebruiken omdat ze verbonden zijn met terroristen of iets dergelijks.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:09:47 \u2013 0:09:57<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik vind het een beetje moeilijk dat je zo be\u00efnvloed kan worden of iets dergelijks.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:09:57 \u2013 0:10:08<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik bedoel, om terug te gaan naar de oorspronkelijke situatie, dat met de marxistische gedachten,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:10:08 \u2013 0:10:18<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">dat dan een vlag van een kunstmatige intelligentie daar zal worden geplaatst, omdat het<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:10:18 \u2013 0:10:29<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">In een paar zinnen is het slechts een humoristische uitspraak dat socialistisch, communistisch,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:10:29 \u2013 0:10:38<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Marxistische gedachten of idee\u00ebn zijn heel graag vertegenwoordigd onder muzikanten.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:10:38 \u2013 0:10:49<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Dat gaat dan gewoon en dat je dit zo vaak in een relatief groot formaat op deze foto zet als een vlag.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:10:49 \u2013 0:10:55<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ok\u00e9, ik bedoel, het is gewoon een machine, het is gewoon een stom programma, wat deed dat.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:10:55 \u2013 0:11:05<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En zelfs als ik de vaardigheden soms waardeer, is dit niet altijd het geval.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:11:05 \u2013 0:11:16<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik heb dus vaak veel pogingen nodig om een passend beeld te genereren, wat overeenkomt met mijn idee\u00ebn.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:11:16 \u2013 0:11:21<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Dat zou sowieso een interessant onderwerp zijn voor de serie.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:11:21 \u2013 0:11:33<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Of misschien zelfs borderline als ik weer met Chad Geberier als gesprekspartner ga zitten.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:11:33 \u2013 0:11:37<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Misschien moet ik dat ook doen.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:11:37 \u2013 0:11:42<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Waar waren we? Ik ben net een beetje weg van het onderwerp.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:11:42 \u2013 0:11:46<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik snap niet waarom zoveel mensen erover nadenken.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:11:46 \u2013 0:11:52<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik bedoel, het is een hobby-podcast en dit onderwerp duikt kort op.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:11:52 \u2013 0:11:57<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Het hoeft niet zo aanwezig te zijn.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:11:57 \u2013 0:12:02<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Zoals een collega al zei, het is een beetje clickbaity.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:12:02 \u2013 0:12:10<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Misschien had ik er geen interesse in, omdat ik de foto niet heb gemaakt.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:12:10 \u2013 0:12:12<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Dat heb ik ook niet meteen geschreven.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:12:12 \u2013 0:12:19<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik plaatste het transcript erin en zei, krijg een beeld van wat de onderwerpen in deze show zijn.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:12:19 \u2013 0:12:34<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En als een kunstmatige intelligentie of wat dan ook een neuraal netwerk betekent dat dit een belangrijk onderwerp was, dan was dat het geval.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:12:34 \u2013 0:12:39<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Is dat nu echt het geval? Ik weet het niet. Ik weet het niet.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:12:39 \u2013 0:12:55<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Voor mij was dit gewoon zo'n grappig praatje, waarbij ik me als mens meteen realiseerde dat dit niet serieus bedoeld is en geen belang heeft.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:12:55 \u2013 0:13:02<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik vind zulke dingen niet belangrijk, want de podcast speelt in een repetitieruimte,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:13:02 \u2013 0:13:10<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">zelfs als de repetitieruimte is uitgebreid in heel Duitsland of zelfs een beetje Duitstalige vreemde landen,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:13:10 \u2013 0:13:18<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Dit is een virtuele ruimte waar we samen zitten en praten over onderwerpen als hobbymuzikanten.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:13:18 \u2013 0:13:24<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En zelfs als we gasten binnenhalen die professionals zijn, is het allemaal gewoon een hobby.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:13:24 \u2013 0:13:40<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En daar weet ik niet, ook de gedachtegang, dat nu, als gevolg van de toegenomen verschuiving naar rechts binnen de Europese Unie,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:13:40 \u2013 0:13:53<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Met zo'n communistisch, marxistisch Blablabla-element op de foto zittend in de brandnetels, ik weet het niet.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:13:53 \u2013 0:14:00<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik weet het niet. Ik bedoel, we hebben nog steeds het principe van vrijheid van meningsuiting.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:14:00 \u2013 0:14:14<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En als iemand zichzelf kwetsbaar maakt, ben ik het omdat ik alle shit hier post en al het spul op mijn naam staat.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:14:14 \u2013 0:14:24<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En ja, dan zou ik de mail krijgen met de waarschuwingen of met iets anders.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:14:24 \u2013 0:14:36<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Maar jij niet. Als er iets is, verschijnen ze alleen als internetprojecten.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:14:36 \u2013 0:14:53<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En ik denk dat dat een goede zaak is, want zo kun je jezelf beschermen tegen de andere dingen die gewoon onder mijn merknaam \"Lautfunkproduktionskartell\" lopen.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:14:53 \u2013 0:15:09<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Omdat ik soms ook erg borderline-onderwerpen heb, vooral in de \"borderline\"-podcasts, waar het soms over All Defens gaat, waar het soms over aanvallen op vrouwen gaat,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:15:09 \u2013 0:15:20<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Fysiek of seksueel geweld. Dus steeds weer zulke onderwerpen, waarbij je jezelf soms kwetsbaar maakt, maken ook de gasten kwetsbaar.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:15:20 \u2013 0:15:27<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik wil echt dat ze beschermd worden. Ik bedoel, ik kan dat doen.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:15:27 \u2013 0:15:44<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik weet niet of ik dit ergens eerder heb verteld, maar voor een tijdje hadden mijn partners en ik ook live gestreamd en hadden we eigenlijk de politie en brandweer aan de deur met swatting actie.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:15:44 \u2013 0:16:04<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En hoe vervelend dat ook is, van een bepaalde graad of zoiets, dat is gewoon, ja nogmaals, ok\u00e9, ik heb te maken met de heren die uitleggen wat er is gebeurd.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:16:04 \u2013 0:16:20<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En ze hebben er meestal geen idee of begrip voor, en dan is het goed. Ik bedoel, uitspraken als \"Doe dit af en ga naar bed\" - ja, heel professioneel, dank je.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:16:20 \u2013 0:16:32<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Het spijt me ook als krachten worden vastgebonden voor grappen of gewoon om me erin te duwen.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:16:32 \u2013 0:16:49<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Voedselleveringen werden geregeld naar het bedrijfsadres of vanuit een verder weg gelegen buurt enorme hoeveelheden drankjes en dergelijke dingen.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:16:49 \u2013 0:17:04<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Dus ik ben gewend om mezelf kwetsbaar te maken op plaatsen met wat ik doe en daarom is de bescherming van de mensen met wie ik werk belangrijk voor mij.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:17:04 \u2013 0:17:07<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Of met de gasten die ik heb op de podcast.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:17:07 \u2013 0:17:22<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Maar zulke andere redenen kon ik nu niet bedenken. Ik denk dat dat echt de moeite waard is om te overwegen als je jezelf beperkt, omdat iemand er misschien iets tegen heeft.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:17:22 \u2013 0:17:40<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Dat is net als de Sarotti chocolade, dat de mascotte, het handelsmerk dat ze hadden, de Sarotti heide, ik bedoel, dat is hoe het personage werd genoemd, zelfs als dat nu racistisch is, maar dat is hoe het personage werd genoemd,<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:17:40 \u2013 0:17:47<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Hij werd weggehaald omdat het bedrijf bang was dat iemand zich op de stropdas zou voelen.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:17:47 \u2013 0:18:06<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">De zigeunersaus is nu de Balkansaus, omdat het de hele bevolking van de Roma en Sinti ontbrandt met de term zigeuners.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:18:06 \u2013 0:18:26<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik kan nog steeds begrijpen dat toen er was, maar er was weer iemand die er niet over klaagde, maar iemand die er niet door wordt be\u00efnvloed, dacht aan het feit dat iemand er misschien iets tegen zou kunnen hebben.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:18:26 \u2013 0:18:46<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En daarom is het veranderd. Foam kisses worden nu foam kisses genoemd, omdat misschien iemand bezwaar zou kunnen maken als de dingen, zoals ze vroeger werden genoemd, ik wil het woord nu niet in mijn mond stoppen, werden genoemd.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:18:46 \u2013 0:18:56<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Helaas overkomt me dit veel te vaak, dat dit nog steeds uit me wegglijdt, omdat de hele kindertijd en ook mijn jeugd zo genoemd werden.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:18:56 \u2013 0:19:13<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Interessant leuk feit is, ik heb Afro-Amerikaanse familieleden in de familie en ze vonden dit zelfs grappig in Duitsland, als ze gewoon een schuimkus aten, zoals ze worden genoemd.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:19:13 \u2013 0:19:21<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ja, dus niemand kwam op het idee. Oh mijn God, het kwade N-woord.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:19:21 \u2013 0:19:36<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ja, ik bedoel, ik kan het begrijpen, maar misschien omdat iemand en dit misschien extreme voorbeelden zijn die ik nu heb opgesomd voor dit gedrag.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:19:36 \u2013 0:19:50<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Maar dat is precies waar ik het zie en dat betekent dat ik uiteindelijk kettingen aan mezelf leg dat ik iets niet kan doen omdat ik mezelf kwetsbaar kan maken.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:19:50 \u2013 0:19:58<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Of had het kwetsbaar kunnen maken. Ik denk dat dat Plusquamperfekt is. Het wordt super zelden gebruikt.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:19:58 \u2013 0:20:16<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">De Duitse taal. En alleen al vanwege de angst dat ik voor iets wat ik in het verleden heb gedaan, in de toekomst gewaarschuwd zou kunnen worden, doen sommige mensen gewoon sommige dingen niet meer.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:20:16 \u2013 0:20:25<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">En ik vind dit erg problematisch. Ik weet niet hoe je het ziet. Dat kun je me schrijven in de comments.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:20:25 \u2013 0:20:41<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Voordat dit nog een nummer van 2-3 uur is, omdat ik er zelfs buitengewoon extravagant naar zou kunnen verwijzen, moeten we dit nu be\u00ebindigen.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:20:41 \u2013 0:20:50<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik zou blij zijn als je echt in het discours zou gaan en me je mening zou willen schrijven.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:20:50 \u2013 0:21:11<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Je kunt dit doen waar er ook een podcast is of stoppen onder deze podcast of in YouTube op de pagina met mij in de blog en dank je wel voor het luisteren.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:21:11 \u2013 0:21:15<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">Ik zou blij zijn als je er in de toekomst bij bent. Tot ziens, Sasha.<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                                                                                            <tr>\n                                    <td colspan=\"2\">\n                                        <span class=\"ts-time\">0:21:15 \u2013 0:21:31<\/span>\n                                        <div class=\"ts-content\">[Muziek]<\/div>\n                                    <\/td>\n                                <\/tr>\n                                                                                        <\/tbody>\n            <\/table>\n        <\/div>\n\n        <script type=\"text\/javascript\">\n            function toggleTranscript() {\n                const container = document.getElementById(\"transcript-container\");\n                const button = document.getElementById(\"toggle-transcript\");\n                if (container.style.display === \"none\") {\n                    container.style.display = \"block\";\n                    button.textContent = \"Transkript ausblenden\";\n                } else {\n                    container.style.display = \"none\";\n                    button.textContent = \"F\u00fcr das Transkript hier klicken\";\n                }\n            }\n        <\/script>\n    \n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-dominant-color=\"a5a5a5\" data-has-transparency=\"false\" style=\"--dominant-color: #a5a5a5;\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"1050\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" src=\"https:\/\/lautfunk.uber.space\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Dieabscheifung-035-pnterest-700x1050.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5860 not-transparent\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lautfunk.uber.space\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Dieabscheifung-035-pnterest-700x1050.jpg 700w, https:\/\/lautfunk.uber.space\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Dieabscheifung-035-pnterest-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/lautfunk.uber.space\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Dieabscheifung-035-pnterest-768x1152.jpg 768w, https:\/\/lautfunk.uber.space\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Dieabscheifung-035-pnterest.jpg 1000w\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Beschrijving:<\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In deze aflevering van \u201cdeviation\u201d duiken we diep in de fascinerende wereld van symboliek en memes. Onze gastheer Sascha vertelt over een project waarbij AI-gegenereerde beelden zijn gemaakt voor een podcast over muziekproductie. Interessante en soms controversi\u00eble symbolen werden gebruikt, wat leidde tot spannende discussies. Van de oude vlag van de Sovjet-Unie tot Pepe de Kikker, we werpen licht op de geschiedenis en betekenis van deze symbolen en memes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We leren hoe een onschuldige grap over marxistische tendensen in de muziekscene tot onverwachte resultaten leidde en welke uitdagingen daaruit voortkwamen. Sascha deelt zijn gedachten over hoe bepaalde symbolen tegenwoordig niet meer kunnen worden gebruikt vanwege hun historische of culturele connotaties en wat dit betekent voor de vrijheid van meningsuiting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Een ander hoogtepunt van de aflevering is de discussie over de ontwikkeling van <span data-wikipedia-preview=\"\" data-wp-title=\"4chan\" data-wp-lang=\"de\" class=\"wmf-wp-with-preview\">4chan<\/span> en hoe <span data-wikipedia-preview=\"\" data-wp-title=\"Pepe der Frosch\" data-wp-lang=\"de\" class=\"wmf-wp-with-preview\">Pepe de Kikker<\/span> Van een onschuldig cartoonfiguur tot een symbool van controversi\u00eble politieke bewegingen. We kijken ook naar het gebruik van symbolen en <span data-wikipedia-preview=\"\" data-wp-title=\"Emoji\" data-wp-lang=\"de\" class=\"wmf-wp-with-preview\">Emoji's<\/span> op sociale media, met name in de context van politieke debatten tijdens de coronapandemie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sascha vertelt hoe bepaalde symbolen zoals de swastika of de SS flitsen niet meer kunnen worden gebruikt vanwege hun geschiedenis en hoe dit wordt toegepast op andere, minder voor de hand liggende symbolen. De aflevering eindigt met een reflectie over hoe we onszelf censuur opleggen om controverse te voorkomen, en wat dit betekent voor de vrijheid van meningsuiting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-dominant-color=\"9c7970\" data-has-transparency=\"false\" style=\"--dominant-color: #9c7970;\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"394\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" src=\"https:\/\/lautfunk.uber.space\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Abschweifung35-700x394.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5857 not-transparent\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lautfunk.uber.space\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Abschweifung35-700x394.jpg 700w, https:\/\/lautfunk.uber.space\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Abschweifung35-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lautfunk.uber.space\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Abschweifung35-768x432.jpg 768w, 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class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Gebruik van AI om afbeeldingen te maken<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Eerste reacties en discussie over de gegenereerde symbolen<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Controversi\u00eble symbolen<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Discussie over het gebruik van de Sovjetvlag<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Pepe de Kikker: Van een onschuldige cartoon tot een controversieel symbool<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Historische context<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Ontwikkeling van 4chan en de oorsprong van Pepe de Kikker<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Historische symbolen en hun huidige betekenis (bv. swastika, SS-flitsen)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Politieke symboliek<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Symbolen en emoji's op sociale media tijdens de coronapandemie<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Blauwe harten en andere politieke tekens in het huidige landschap<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Zelfcensuur en vrijheid van meningsuiting<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Hoe symbolen tegenwoordig worden vermeden vanwege hun connotaties<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Reflectie op de grenzen van vrijheid van meningsuiting en zelfcensuur<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Praktische overwegingen<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Voorbeelden van symbolen die niet meer gebruikt kunnen worden (bijvoorbeeld Sarotti moeras, zigeunersaus)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Discussie over de impact van zelfcensuur op creatieve processen<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Persoonlijke ervaring<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Sascha deelt persoonlijke ervaringen met swatting en andere vormen van intimidatie<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Het belang van het beschermen van gasten en medewerkers<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Conclusie en vooruitzichten<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Samenvatting van de belangrijkste punten<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Oproep tot discussie en interactie met 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