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The Monologue podcast.
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One word, one monologue.
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Hello and welcome to a new issue of the Monologue Podcast where I have a
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Word will explain.
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Today's word caught my eye on the Netflix series, not Netflix, Amazon Prime
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That was it, Deos.
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And they talk all the time about a deterministic universe.
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And then I thought, if you live in a world that is so elementary and so, yeah,
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If it is structured like our world, then it would be good if it were deterministic.
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would explain.
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So what does deterministic mean?
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That's something very simple.
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They are interconnections.
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It is a causality.
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This means that an action is taken on an action on an action on an action.
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And this in the broadest sense all predetermined, because it always stops the reaction to an action
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Come on, come on.
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And you have virtually no free will, because you only have to react to what
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It happened.
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And that this is almost predetermined.
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This is also the key message in this series that there is no free will,
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that everything in this world is predictable, predictable, if you have a starting point and
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He knows all the conditions for it.
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Can you make a simulation that is no different from our world,
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because everything would have developed exactly as it would have done in our world if
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You know all the parameters.
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How do we know about a deterministic system?
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Our weather.
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It is based on equations, on thermodynamic equations.
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This is how the weather is, i.e. the temperature, flow behavior, behavior as temperature
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spread out, and a bunch of others.
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But they are all relatively simple equations.
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And we know that the weather can be predicted relatively well for a large area.
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And for a few days it goes wonderfully.
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But somehow, if you want to predict the weather for two weeks or for
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Half a year, it won't work so well.
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And that's where we come to the problem of what we have behind this idea.
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Chaos.
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The chaos factor.
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If you look into chaos theory, you will see that there are slightest deviations.
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They have a radically different outcome to the situation.
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The idea with the butterfly effect, which is based on the chaos theory, is that
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if you round only a tiny small, i.e. 10, 15 digits behind the comma the value and
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then stop the starting sequence to calculate the weather further that this is a complete
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The result is different than if you typed the value exactly.
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And then they said, to illustrate this, if on the other side
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If a butterfly strikes the globe with its wings, this is already so serious in the world.
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The effect is that the sun does not shine and it rains for us.
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This is the so-called butterfly effect, butterfly effect.
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It has to do with chaos.
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So from frectal mathematics, from chaos theory.
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There is another interesting aspect.
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These are self-similar structures, which is also a subfield of frectal mathematics.
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That's just when I have simple rules on how to add a triangle on each straight line
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and that I really let this go through, I get structures that
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No matter how deep I zoom in or how far I dissolve this, always look like
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the origin.
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A good example is a fern leaf.
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Up to a certain level, a part of a fern leaf sees the same in magnification
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It's like the whole fern leaf.
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Broccoli has that too.
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Cauliflower.
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If you cut out the roses, you can see that a rose almost looks like this
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or very similar to the original broccoli or cauliflower.
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And such factors play a role in the calculation in our weather.
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And we simply see that the smallest deviations make a serious difference.
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Now it's all broken down quite a bit and explained quite simply.
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You could write entire books about it.
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But if you take three laws of thermodynamics, you can calculate the weather.
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That's the idea.
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But then the factor chaos comes again, i.e. the ordered chaos in between and shows
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Because the weather forecast is never accurate.
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That's why you can see such data as on 30 percent of the days in the past
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It was raining with similar weather conditions.
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That this cannot be predicted more accurately.
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And there are the limits of determinism.
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We've come to an end, and I used to think that
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people in the past, that if you only know everything, that you
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Then you can predict the future.
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You can't do that because the smallest things lead to deviations.
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How a butterfly effect is explained.
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There are other determinisms as well.
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There is the physical determinism that we have just explained.
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These are all physical events, including human commerce, are governed by the laws of the world.
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determined by physics.
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Then there is psychological determinism.
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Human behavior is characterized by inner states such as anger, beliefs, and experiences.
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fully determined.
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So that means derived from it.
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Then there is theological determinism.
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God or another higher being determines the course of events.
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You can see that it is at odds with free will.
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There is an idea called compactibilism.
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It tries to unite determinism with free will.
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You could make your own episode about it, but I think it all fits in here,
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because in the real sense it is about the idea that everything is predetermined,
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It is a result of previous events.
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In this idea, it is assumed that human action is not based on causalities.
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There are moral aspects involved.
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In such a way that a person can adapt his actions according to his wishes
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or to act according to his convictions or even according to his views.
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As long as the person acts without external coercion,
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which would then again mean that it would then just be a reaction to an action,
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This would reflect causality.
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I studied mathematics, religious studies, ethics and psychology.
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And I'm all familiar with all these terms and the ideas and concepts behind them.
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Nevertheless, I doubt that it is just so to be aborted,
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because I believe that the idea of free will already exists,
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that you can shape everything according to your wishes and ideas.
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I often have the choice, do I do something good now or do I do something not good?
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Am I stealing because I'm hungry or am I asking if I can get anything?
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That there is such a kind of free will,
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It is always dependent on causality.
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So say that it is such a modified answer to a given.
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If I'm too lazy now to go to the store and buy myself groceries,
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I have to trust that I have supplies.
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And if that's soup noodles with ketchup.
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Or I just have to ask someone to go shopping for me.
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I can't go now, just go in the neighbor's apartment and take something.
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I'm sure some people do that. They have no scruples.
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My idea would not be in the first place, nor in the second or third.
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Maybe in tenth place, if I had already gone through a lot of other things.
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It has something to do with my education. It has something to do with my morality,
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to do with my moral understanding and also with the concept,
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How I want to live and how I want to be treated by others.
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On the other hand, I also experience total action, which is controlled from the outside.
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If I drive the car now and the traffic light turns red, then I will stop,
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Because I learned it that way. I might as well drive over it,
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If it wasn't from the outside, I decided.
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But there are restrictions or, if necessary, a serious upheaval.
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But I could also the spider that sits at my home in the apartment and does not bother me,
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but my life partner disturbs, packs in a handkerchief, crushes or even puts out.
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This is again a matter of free will,
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but also a concatenation of events from my past,
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Because I just learned that the smallest life is worth living.
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It's an interesting approach and maybe an idea,
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Rethinking one's own life, especially one's own actions.
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As simple as these words and the concepts behind determinism or compactibilism,
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Ideas are so abstract.
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There is also a counter-movement to compactibilism.
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That would be incompactism.
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What words.
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These are people who believe that true free will is only possible if
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if the decision is not determined by predetermined causes,
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This is because deterministic actions fundamentally exclude free will.
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And that's the harder form of determinists.
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I have my own ideas and if you have your own ideas,
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I would be happy if you could write this in the comments.
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I am always happy about comments, be it praise, criticism or an interesting discussion.
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Otherwise, yes, what do I say now?
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Thank you for listening and I look forward to telling you in a next issue,
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The Monologue Podcast. I have a good word for a good saying,
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Think of such an ending. I haven't done this for so long, so I apologize.
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Bye bye, Sasha.
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Description:
Is there free will or is everything predetermined? In this episode of monologue Let's dive deep into the fascinating world of determinism one. What does it mean when each of our actions is just a reaction to a chain of events? Can we really calculate the future with enough data? And what does he have Butterfly effect to do with it? Let yourself be surprised by the links between chaos, weather and human behaviour – and why we may have more in our hands than we think. Listen in and discover the secret behind predestination!
Topics Outline:
- Introduction to Determinism
- Explanation of the concept and the basic idea.
- Mention of inspiration by an TV series.
- The Deterministic Universe
- Imagination of the concept that everything is determined by previous events.
- Example from the weather forecast: Physical Equations and the Limits of Predictive Accuracy.
- Chaos theory and the butterfly effect
- Declaration of the Chaos theory and their role in the deterministic system.
- Example of Butterfly effects and its influence on the unpredictability of events.
- Fractal Mathematics and Self-Similar Structures
- Introduction to the fractal mathematics as part of the chaos theory.
- Examples such as fern leaves and broccoli for Self-similar structures.
- The Limits of Determinism
- Why, despite known physical laws, not everything is predictable.
- Example: Limits of the weather forecast.
- Different Types of Determinism
- Physical determinism: Everything is governed by natural laws.
- Psychological determinism: Human behavior in response to internal conditions.
- Theological determinism: The belief that a higher being determines the course.
- Compactibilism: The attempt to unite free will and determinism
- Imagination of the theory that moral action and determinism go together.
- Examples from everyday life for moral decisions.
- The Influence of Education and Morality on Decisions
- Personal anecdotes and reflections on free will and moral actions.
- Dealing with decisions in everyday situations (e.g. killing or releasing spiders).
- Contradictions and countermovements to determinism
- Presentation of the Incompatibilism, who sees free will as incompatible with determinism.
- Final reflection on free will and the role of causality.
- Closing and Call for Discussion
- Invite listeners to share their own thoughts on the topic in the comments.
- Adoption.
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Date of admission: 19.10.24
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