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Hello and welcome to a new edition of the digression, as I guess occasionally,
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In fact, they always deviate from the topic. Today's topic is for me one where I always,
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I always have to brush my hair. It's about conspiracy theories and why the belief,
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that public or public television is a pure propaganda tool
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It is our government. Please play dramatic music to get the effect on the government.
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Reinforcement. So, bam, bam, bam. Yes, in the course of my life and especially at the point where I
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Once you've gone online, you'll find people here and there who are chosen to believe in more.
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Like other people. So okay, I mean, I know some people believe in God or some other
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higher being, which determines our destiny, others believe that the market regulates everything,
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and others believe that the earth is a disk or a hollow sphere and many others
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Things that are funny, strange, even if they aren't. I mean, everybody can believe,
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He does what he wants, but there are people who take it for granted.
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Scientific facts, facts are not accepted. So that you stop while
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the pandemic is supposed to inject a bleach because it protects against the coronaviruses,
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Because it kills bacteria and viruses on surfaces. It has to be in our body, too.
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happen. It's a wonderful way to stop yourself, to commit suicide.
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There are people who believe that if you get vaccinated, you get autism.
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There is also a really cool story with a not very well worked out
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Study with totally absurd conditions that give no statement. I believe in England
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was made, and rests upon it, or sits upon it, this conspiracy,
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Autism comes from vaccinations. Yes, there is a whole bunch of
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Strange things you can talk about. When you have the fun
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I want to talk to someone who thinks the earth is flat.
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so-called Flat-Earthlers, who even call themselves so, you will be surprised what kind of
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They have ideas to prove their theory. There are landings, which have a certain
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Have distance, set up instruments, for example a laser, which is then just 1.50 meters
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over the ground and strangely, he then hits on the other side, because he absolutely
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is set up in Lot and in Libra, on the other hand also at 1.50 meters. If it were
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Earth a sphere, then the ray of light would have to come higher, because through the
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Earth's curvature and the straight beam of light, because it is not curved, would then have to stop the light
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It does not reach 1.50 meters, but the further away it is, the higher. If you know,
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That you can look to the horizon and the horizon is really damn far away.
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I just checked again. I thought it was four kilometers, but it's about 4.5 miles.
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kilometers. If you are about 1.70 meters tall, no, there are even more. There are 4.7 kilometers
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even. Okay, the numbers fluctuate a little bit, if you now so quickly a Google search
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Yes, but it's a few miles. And if you go now and only two or
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a kilometre, then the measurement is simply not portable, because you actually …
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It doesn't work because what you measure is within the measurement tolerance. There are also others
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Attempts or there are attempts to explain why the sun moves so and the moon and the
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Stars, so that it can be explained that we live on a disk. How this should work,
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I don't know. It only works if you have approximately circular orbits or as in our
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If the elliptical orbit actually falls so easily, the motions of the planets can be
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Let's just explain our solar system. And then there's the idea,
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that everything is a hologram, so even the starry sky, the projection, is a hologram
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and it makes no sense now any funny ideas or even conspiracy theories
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Stop enumerating. I'm more concerned today with what aggression, with what energy this
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Theories are being tried to prove and why I am now also taking a critical look at the public
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Legally speaking, that's exactly what it is. For me, these are the same mechanisms,
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who are behind it. So if you're in a clique where you think you're,
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If you know more like the others, then you will like such terms as "sleeping sheep"
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It's for anyone who doesn't know what's going on. Definitions such as "we are
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The Chosen Ones, we are the Enlightened Ones, Illuminati. And yes, what can I say about that?
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That's where you feel exalted. That's so "Hach, I know,
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What you don't know is this and that. Or "I'm so well-informed,
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I can just move in my bladder or echo chamber, depending on what you want to call it, and
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They all believe the same thing. And I've met people who are really stunned about it.
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I didn't agree because everyone I interacted with
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They are of the same opinion. And these are just these echo chambers or bubbles, as they say so nicely,
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Because if I only move in these constructs, all people have the same opinion.
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And if I now agree with 99 or 90 of the 100 people I know,
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Almost everyone else must be of the same opinion.
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And I've already been asked why I don't see this or why I don't think so,
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Public broadcasting is controlled by the state. I mean, if I really
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State television is watching what's happening in North Korea, China, or other dictatorships.
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where the state really intervenes in the television programme or radio programme,
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Television is different than ours. It can be said that there are media outlets that
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CDU or FDP are more friendly. I mean, in the past, correspondence or
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SMS or WhatsApp instructions posted by the owner to the editor at the image,
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where it was said that you should be a bit more anti-green now and
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should show more FDP friendliness or the entire green bashing in certain ways
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Newspapers or other media. Yes, that's noticeable, but these are
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Mostly private media, not public broadcasting. This is ….
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I don't know, but when I read through what the regulations are and the mandate for them is,
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then this is an independent one, because it is financed by fees – and it can now be said:
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whether this is compulsory fees or anything else – it is fee-financed and thus independent,
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because there is no one behind it who has an interest in increasing his money or has his interest,
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steer others to increase their money. We can also look at America. I mean,
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Fox News is a very Trump-friendly channel that is very benevolent about Donald Trump.
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The President of the United States and his party. And there, no matter what
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Strange things he does, which means that he sells the great ultimate. This is also
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It's a channel that's driven by interests. I know this in the public debate.
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Radio in Germany, this state radio, that there are also the accusations that there are interests
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government to make certain polarizations in order to steer the people. And it is precisely this
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The approach is in the media state treaty,
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or in the Interstate Broadcasting Treaty, I am not
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Lawyer, folks, there's a rule that he's
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should be independent and that the
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The state has no influence. Now could
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They say yes, but in committees and so on.
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Go ahead, there are a few
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ordinary people,
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Interest representatives from any areas and, of course, representatives of the government.
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On the other hand, when I look at people like Dunja Hayali, I also see them in different places.
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Follow social media on the channel, then it is not as if it would give me the impression,
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That there is a propaganda behind it, almost a media guide, but that this is free.
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Interestingly, all the moderators employed in public law,
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They are not employed at all, they are freelancers, they are quasi-honorary workers,
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they are only bought for certain things, employed, i.e. for a shipment,
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for a format and this is regularly checked whether this continues now,
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Funding above all else. All right, I'm a little digressive now,
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I really wanted public broadcasting to be one,
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who is the most reputable and not any self-appointed Hans and Franz and Rüdigers,
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who start a small website and then try to drive their own agenda,
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How bad that is. We saw what happened to Attila Hildmann during the corona phase
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What happened to him, what was his name again? – former moderator Ken Jensen,
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What happened there. They have all made their own formats on YouTube, their own blogs and
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They spread strange ideas or even false information. When you stop
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from the former picture editor Julian Reichelt looks at the new Linus format, where
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innovated and the donors are also all very strange figures, then
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You can see that there is quite a bit of opinion. Propaganda is nothing
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Other than opinion making. You can really see that there is an agenda. And I wonder
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Really, how in some places extremely intelligent people can believe that. Sure, I can
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understand that with the way society is currently changing and with the
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The upheavals that have occurred in the last 20 years, let's say 20 years, are not satisfied and
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one realizes that if then, let's take as the heating renewal law, extremely
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Getting uncomfortable because I have to adjust to higher costs because I'm making changes
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This is because it can be extremely uncomfortable. I then go and say, no, I'm profound
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oppressed. The government wants to. Now the Easter bunny must no longer be called the Easter bunny,
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It is the seated rabbit. This is also very current at the moment. How to stop for Christmas
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Instead of Santa Claus, Santa Claus or Santa Claus. By the way, there is one
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The difference. One of them has a bishop's hat and the other one has a cap.
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open. One is Nicholas, Saint Nicholas, a bishop and the other is just one, yes,
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such a mythical mythical figure, yes, just so we know it, you could really
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Sipfel beanie call man. The other, however, is Nicholas, because Saint Nicholas used to live
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In today's Turkey, no white was relatively dark-skinned. Where had I stopped?
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Exactly. That you can no longer say certain things, that I would be forbidden,
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Saying things. I want my foam kiss to be called the way it used to be and I want my,
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the other word for foam kiss, have buns again. Or that the schnitzel with
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a pepper sauce again the word of a group persecuted during the Nazi period or even today
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It's a stigmatized group's name. There was this little scandal now.
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with Didi Haller, when he brought a sketch he had already brought many years ago,
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I had a little bit more to say, and I actually complained about the fact that I was here today.
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Certain things can no longer be said. This thing is falling right in front of my feet and it's going to be there
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pretty torn. He is also a person who speaks out against gender. For me is
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That's not a thing now, because language continues to evolve, like many other things. Because
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We don't stand still. We are in a line of evolution and everything has its evolution.
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Where had we been again? You can't say certain things anymore. And
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The same goes for those people who think that you can't do certain things.
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You can say more, like to go to such people, where you think that they are against it and that
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who are also of the opinion that you can't say anything more, like Ken Jensen or a Julian
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Reichelt. Because we still represent the only truth. We are the ones who dare.
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To say what others no longer dare to say. And here we are again at the point,
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There are people who believe they are the enlightened, they have the wisdom. With the
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Funnel during childbirth as an enema. They are the ones who are special.
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are. And when you look at what has become of some of these sad figures,
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who have disappeared into a sinking because they have said things that are circumventive and
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are anti-constitutional and therefore sought and those of Turkey have been submerged and that
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There is no longer a word about it and that the wealth they received during their high phase,
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where there were many supporters, where they gave speeches, even now almost used up
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because a life is on the run, not cheap, then the … is
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I always ask myself, how far do people believe what they are spreading?
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And on the other hand, how much business is that? How much is the mesh and business?
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In the current social media world, we also have people who once won a gaming prize,
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as the best gamer in Germany and today her entire legal dispute
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has. This stop leads with men who are allegedly misogynistic or their
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In the opinion of misogyny, leads and all this is financed by donations. There will be
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set up a GoFundMe donation campaign to stop these horrendous costs, it's about
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In some cases, the value of the dispute is 20,000, 90,000 euros. And then you can use a process cost calculator
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Let's recalculate. That's where sums of money come out. Other people buy a used car. And
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I'm not talking about a 20-year-old car, I'm talking about a three- or four-year-old car.
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If I have 25,000 euros in litigation costs in the sheets and I don't stop so much
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Earn more because I'm controversial, then I have to do GoFundMe actions. And here comes
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Surprisingly, it really makes a lot of money. Because there will always be people who
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And even here I realize that when I go and put my ideas, my theories into the internet
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blase, send that there are people who like this and also like to support me
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offer or provide financial support. Yeah, that's what I really like,
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Because without support, I wouldn't be able to do much of what I do. But that's not
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The main reason I do this. I really enjoy the joy. With others believe
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Is there really a monetized purpose? A monetized purpose? It doesn't matter,
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I can't say the word right now. By the way, this is a consequence of my
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stroke. I have a slight word-finding disorder. We've lost our way again.
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Yeah, it's not about making me money here. It's about having fun.
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And maybe make people think. I find it totally amazing,
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What oddities are believed to be far from scientific facts.
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I actually wonder, if I go and reject science, if I don't
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I believe that if someone provides reproducible results scientifically and, above all, from others,
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And you doubt whether people also doubt that 1 and 1 is 2. And if you add 2 and 2 together,
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is it either the result of 4 times 1 or 4 times the 1, so 1 times 1 times 1 times 1, 1 plus 1 plus 1.
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Oh, or if that's something else. I have no idea, I have no idea.
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Yes, and if you've listened carefully now, you've just noticed,
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I've ridiculed bullshit. Because 4 times 1, so 1 times 1 times 1 times 1.
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Let's try what that is. That's not 4. That's something else.
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But it doesn't matter. I've been eating for another 25 minutes. I think that's enough. I could still have so many
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Examples bring and so many things I've experienced or stories I've experienced with people,
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They believe in conspiracy theories. I'm not talking about people who talk about esotericism.
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Believe in ghosts or ghosts. It's a very different story. But to the people,
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They believe that governments, world events, are controlled and controlled by other people.
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I can't rule it out, honestly. I can't rule it out. If:
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If it's really well done or something like that, then it can be. But for me, and that's my opinion,
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There is no indication that higher powers are manipulating my life in such a way that I am doing something.
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Which I normally wouldn't do. So that I am so manipulated and thus propaganda
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bombarded. Of course, there are things to do with public broadcasting.
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suspend. Far too head-heavy, far too expensive, far too material, which I am not interested in.
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But I don't have to watch the Musikantenstadel, I have to watch other people. me
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I don't have to do the hit parade here either.
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Other people are also watching this, most likely not the same as Musikantenstadel.
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But it is consumed.
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And when you think about what's going on there, radio, television, sites on the internet where I
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God's word does not last forever, but only for a limited time.
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The past can look at me. This would also be an interesting topic to discuss.
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talk about how privately run media have influenced public service broadcasting,
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that the Internet content is not available for all eternity, but only a certain
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Time. This can even be seen when you listen to the podcasts of the Public-Legal Broadcasting
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subscribed. It is always in the description of the issue how long this
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are available. Sometimes it's only four weeks. Not because the storage sheet is so expensive
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is or something. No, because there are provisions where media houses have exerted influence, because they
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feared that public broadcasting would be a free, restricted
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Archives are available where you can get information. Free of charge. I mean,
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That's something we've already paid with our contribution fees,
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They financed the broadcasting contribution. Yes, but now only for a short time as a diversion.
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For me, it is one of the few media that reproduces the world in the most realistic way.
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Not entirely falsified. There are still influences in there because people can't
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Be 100% objective. It still plays a small opinion with pure,
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Even if you try to be objective. That doesn't work. So, let's hold on,
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Public broadcasting is a blessing to me. And no, I don't believe in it,
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that the world is a disk or a hollow sphere or that we are in the toilet of an alien living being
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We are the anus of the universe. In this sense, I would be glad if you
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next time be there when it's called digression and say goodbye to your sasha
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Description:
What do flat earth, bleaching agents against viruses and the perpetual ‘state radio’ debate have in common? In this episode, the divergence Sasha digs through the world of Conspiracy narratives – with a critical look, a touch of disbelief and a good dose of irony. Why do people believe in things that obviously contradict any scientific basis? And what does this have to do with uncertainty, echo chambers and self-staging?
Without being instructive, Sascha raises questions that occupy many: Where does healthy skepticism stop, where does targeted skepticism begin? disinformation? How do you recognise genuine media criticism – and what really distinguishes public service broadcasting from manipulated private media?
Those interested in the media, opinion-forming and the strange need of some people for ‘secret knowledge’ should not miss this episode. Not easy answers, but a lot of food for thought – in the style of divergence.
Topics Outline:
- Introduction: The digression
- Presentation of the topic: Conspiracy theories and their spread in society
- Brief explanation of the format and ‘deviation’ itself
- Believing in absurdities
- Introduction to the various conspiracy theories
- Examples: Flat earth, hollow world theories, bleach against COVID-19
- The absurdity of these theories and the rejection of scientific facts
- The ‘echo chambers’ of truth
- What are echo chambers and how do they promote the spread of conspiracy theories?
- Personal experience: People who live in their bladder and do not allow other opinions
- State radio or real independence?
- The debate on public service broadcasting
- Compared to real state-controlled media (e.g. North Korea, China)
- The Difference Between Media Criticism and Conspiracy
- Manipulation and opinion-forming
- Media as a tool for forming opinions: Is there an agenda behind the information?
- What happens when private media influence public service broadcasting?
- The business of truth
- How Conspiracy Theories and Provocative Opinions Are Commercialized
- Personal observations on YouTubers, influencers and self-proclaimed experts
- Final Thoughts and Conclusion
- What can we learn from these topics?
- The Value of Facts, Science and Independent Media
- Final reflection and personal expression of opinion
- Outro: Digression is never over
- Invitation to the next episode
- Farewell and Music
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Playing time: 0:34:16
Date of admission: 13.04.25
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Sascha Markmann is a creative mind with a moving biography – and a person who has rediscovered life after a stroke. After working as a paramedic and elderly caregiver, Sascha found his way into creative expression. As a blogger, podcaster, musician and visual storyteller, he brings together things that just don't fit at first glance: He combines his keen enthusiasm for technology – from self-hosted servers to electronic music production – with emotional depth and an oblique sense of humor. His contributions are somewhere between borderline, acid basslines and assistance – honestly, directly and with a wink. Guiding principle: “Audio-visual dullness with no usefulness – but perhaps that's why it's so valuable.” View all posts by Sascha Markmann
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