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Hello and welcome to a new edition of the digression. Where I occasionally,
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Almost always, a bit off topic. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Yes,
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Today's topic is YouTube Beef, i.e. content creators, i.e. people who
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Create Internet content and just hostile or criticize each other. I don't know if you
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I heard it, but we, my
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Life partner and me, Sarah, we have
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at Rektal-Digital, the podcast format, us
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with Frank Butterman
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busy and his television chest
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And there are a few things
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I noticed.
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So, of course, we have a bit of arg pointedly criticized his things, which he does,
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How he does it, dealing with other people and this must have been met with displeasure.
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If I'm criticized by other people, then that's always the case, if that's well-founded now, then that's perfectly fine, then I can assume that.
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If that's just saying, "Look at yourself, you're fat," then, well, you've got an eye for detail, laudable, go on.
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I do not accept this, because one thing I know myself and the other is just a stupid statement, whereby the one more or less disqualifies himself from being a valuable member of society.
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What I want to get to is that you have to have some kind of media literacy, so not only,
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If you consume media, even if you get criticism, you also have to have a competence.
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Maybe the word media literacy isn't right, maybe so critical literacy,
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But I realized that it doesn't necessarily work that way and that it doesn't necessarily work that way.
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Frank's strength. As I said, I think the criticism is justified.
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It's, yeah, you really have a shitty tone, yeah, well, then I have a shitty tone, I think myself,
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could be better, the room is just not optimized and has another
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benefit. So not only primarily to create content, but there is also
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a part of life takes place in it and I can't remodel it so that it's ideal
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for sound recordings. In that case, yes, it is justified. Then there are the statements,
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Like the podcast, you have to listen to the link at twice the speed because you're talking so slowly.
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Yes, it may be. I mean, the thing here isn't scripted, I'm free. Fortunately, you can
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you double the playback speed and if you have premium membership,
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You can even triple it. That sounds a bit strange,
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but then the voice frequency, i.e. the word frequency, is much higher and yes,
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Then hold the syllables hold on to you and then you can, if you are able to,
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So I don't think I could get your profit from it anymore, let's say so. So
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I just wanted to use the example to show that you have justified criticism or even unjustified criticism.
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Criticism. Now that's the case, we have just distributed tips in the podcast. He has himself
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the claim that he is just ironic-sarcastical and we also have an ironic-sarcastical
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Criticism in a way. But in his case, that's Hate. You have to accept that.
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These are parallels that I have when I'm in the Dragon Lord,
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So in the cosmos around Mr. Rainer Winkler I move. There was also everything that was as criticism,
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And let's say it was real criticism and not hate, was dismissed by him as hate.
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These are so parallels. I have to say, this is striking. I just don't understand,
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how you can then go there and in every live, what you do, just attaches importance to it,
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Then distribute the tips. I mean, if you stop the project Lautfunk as scrap radio or
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Referred to as Assi-Funk, I find this even more creative. So I'm really superior,
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whether I should secure the domains, because I think that's funny, that has hand and foot.
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Chapeau, I have to say. But then why do you always have to react in a very hesitant way and bring that in?
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The problem is simply that the normal viewers, i.e. the pure fanboys and fangirls,
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I mean, they're mostly fangirls, I see that in my statistics,
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who are interested in this topic around television statistics,
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That's just, you start at 40 and go up to about 60 in the range.
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And mostly female, so the videos are also mainly in this
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Age group and seen by women.
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These aren't the people who are there now.
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It must be that way in the game. So the
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Then you get a little bit of what
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Frank is there, but not so.
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Definitely stop what happens next.
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And when you go there, cryptic
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Sending meta-messages like "Yes, those two from the junk radio" and stuff like that, then that's one
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Directly addressed to us, but no one else draws added value from it. Then that's the stop
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one thing that has fallen into this livestream and people have to either ask
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Or they just leave it that way. I'm not saying that people aren't in
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are able to provide its viewers with the cognitive transfer performance, if they then
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have seen or heard the sound radio project with the Tal Digital podcasts or the problem
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We have learned that there is just our format and that we have dealt critically with the television chest.
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You can't assume that everyone does that.
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When I think about it, my mother, she's watching YouTube, but she really has no idea.
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So she sometimes wonders that if she had searched for something on Google now,
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that she suddenly has a bunch of things in her suggestions that she was looking for 18 times ago.
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But she doesn't want to see that. She would like to see her Kalle cook.
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I don't even know what a woman's name is.
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And that's it.
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Maybe a little bit more from the social law field,
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what he always finds interesting, what changes there are and what is planned there,
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Especially interesting for pensioners.
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Yeah, and that's it.
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So I don't understand how to constantly go about sending such cryptic meta-messages without adding value to the audience, except to bring a viciousness to what I now call critics.
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And I've already noticed that. I mean, I've been following the TV treasure tour ever since, yeah, what's that? January?
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Yes, I believe since January. That's where the Wollny thing really took off.
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And since then I follow this and watch the livestreams, so if I can be there, then I'm just quiet watchers.
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If not, I'll check things out.
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And now that's the case, so Hater, as he always says, the Frank, are the most loyal spectators.
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I mean, people look at everything, I know that with me.
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I also have my little hatred.
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Where's the gene out?
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And they're really very Aggrib.
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They're all looking at it.
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They even look at it collectively.
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On the discord.
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Watch parties are being held.
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And this is not only seen once,
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but several times, because then you want to look closely,
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If you can find something somewhere,
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What you can get upset about.
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And haters are
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The most loyal spectators. Frank knows that this is the case. And that's why he sends
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these messages. I also have this in my family that there are people who are always
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make these cryptic hints and then send them out to the ethers. This will then also
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extra people unblocked again, so that they then see the stories, to stop them a small
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Giving side blows. I always think to myself, maybe you do that as a teenager,
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But not as an adult. Especially not as an adult,
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which is over 40. I think so anyway, this blocking, so stupid to say so.
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So if I want to wipe someone out and they want to show right, then I block them, because then I showed them.
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People do the same with me in my family or in the extended family.
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If you fall out of favor there, you will be blocked.
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Then the friendship will be withdrawn on social media and you will be excluded.
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You go into exile. And that's what I noticed there in the circles around Frank,
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People are being blocked as a precaution. The interesting thing is, I can see with me,
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on YouTube and also in the Content Delivery Networks that I have here, and my
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Podcast and also play out the media from my blog, besides the statistics that yes
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This is my blog that provides WordPress itself. I can see how many calls
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There are various social networks. And there's the interesting thing that WhatsApp is extremely
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There's a lot in it. I don't think my podcast listeners or even the people who
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Read blog, now definitely share a lot of my posts on WhatsApp. There will be a group,
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where there are a certain number of people who distribute hater content. This will then
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watched and if you follow the livestreams of Frank and then people come in
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like Lina von, I think, officially, you know German written, beautylina on Instagram
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and on YouTube, but the power there, well, on TikTok. She doesn't make any content on YouTube.
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Instagram and TikTok. Then you get to know that you've already agreed on it,
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which the evil junk radio has now spread again. Yes, and you can see that, he knows that.
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Frank, you can see that too. He is also such an old rabbit when it comes to YouTube and he will
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Look at the statistics and you will see that there are also external sources.
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And for me, that's just 2.1 percent coming from external sources.
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That's 40% of WhatsApp.
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Now, with the few calls I have, you could calculate that.
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That's so roundabout 30 to 35 views.
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That speaks for a small WhatsApp group.
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That's so ten people, I guess, because we've got three over the Frank.
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Episodes have been made so far. That would happen, about. That's interesting, of course. And this
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You can also see, if the activities on the block increase and even with anonymization of the
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IP address finds a very rough geological, i.e. the point where the connection is located,
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So not the connection, but the mediation center. And that becomes visible
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made. And when you see that a person from the southern German region with the hedge
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blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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Take a look and then look back at the rest of 2018 for the next few days,
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Then it is conspicuous. Now that I know because of my education,
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how to work scientifically and how to interpret data, how to evaluate data.
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Yes, the data speaks a clear language. That's it, this podcast and this blog.
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this YouTube channel is so irrelevant and has such a minimal
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range. So I'm really wondering why do you consider yourself a bigger YouTuber, the 30,000
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Subscribers have and really have a decent number of views. I think that's something about
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5 million views, but not every month. And why do you stick to it
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So little people? You have to ask yourself that. The answer is as simple as banal. Men's ego,
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Fragile men's ego. I know that it's out there in the circles around the people who have a lot of criticism of
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Frank and his Wollny formats or even at the other reality formats, where it is not always nice
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There is an opinion that there exists a very close personality who is very convinced of himself.
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It may also have toxic traits. I know this is all used so often now,
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That it's almost worn out. I don't necessarily want to say it inflationary, but the suspicion
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Comes up. And if there's someone to whom you just say narcissism, which isn't necessarily the case now
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My opinion is, but the picture of a daffodil in the general public, in society
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has, is already felt. In any case, if you have such a personality structure,
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Hate, criticism, is one and the same. Because when I'm so great and so great
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Only someone who hates me can criticize me. And this is so striking,
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If you then also see how willingly the loyal spectators react to hints on their part,
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If, for example, he says, yes, in Turkey, in the boutique of the Bolognais, you would have to
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Let's see what it looks like with the wheel, whether this is all going right and swuppdiwupps,
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Do you have viewers who feel addressed, to make themselves smart about how to be in the
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Turkey registers a business, how to pay taxes there, whether this is right now with the receipt
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And so on and so forth. The same game is already known from the game with the
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Hate for the Lord Dragon Lord at Rainer Winkler. Few content creators make videos about him
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and say something like "you'd have to take a closer look", "what does that look like?",
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"Has anyone discussed this with the job center?" and so people are indirectly asked,
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Something to do. This is an indirect call to action. And I see that all the time.
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Although not as clumsy as in the Dragon Lord game, but it is stopped. And the people offer
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to himself. You can read all of this in the comments and also in live comments at the
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Live streams. It's noticeable when something happens. Well, there comes this question,
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which is placed in the room by Frank and shortly afterwards his faithful
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viewers and give their findings or their knowledge or say that they are now
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They will act now. This is, of course, a way of passive-aggressive
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Tactics, that is, procedures. Because Frank does not appear himself, but he is
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Only the one who asks eloquent questions. And others do. As I said, when
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If you look at this in the dragon game and there's a livestream of someone,
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who has just been chosen as a victim, then at some point someone writes "Oh, the
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They look hungry.
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I think they need pizzas.
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And if the data is known, then it can be assumed that in the next quarter of an hour
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up to 20 minutes for those who are currently in the livestream, the door is ringing and that there
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a large number of pizza taxis are in front of the door and all of them stop a larger amount of
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Delivery of pizzas. Which, of course, is associated with a lot of trouble, because you have to deal with the
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Taxi-pizza-taxi-driver has to deal with it, because he is of the opinion, you have ordered yes
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And you want to tell him, no, I didn't order. And if you get upset about it,
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This, of course, is a form of payment. That's how this game works. Somebody's going,
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Make a question, a call, a statement, and others act. These are techniques,
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They make people who want to act, but also do not want to appear. There you are
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Yes, they are safe. You are the aggressor, the one who directs the action, but you are not
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The perpetrator. Of course, this is criminally relevant for the first time. You have to give the other
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Prove that you've made a call to action. And if you ask the whole thing as a question
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selling or so as a thought game, then that's always the question, is it now a
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direct call to action or is this so clear that it is simply not the case,
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That it's a call to action, but of course the other people all misunderstand that?
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Of course, these are all mechanisms. The other mechanisms are,
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This is also known from the current world on YouTube. I'm thinking about the streamer.
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Shoyoka and stop their critics, who constantly warn each other of any
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send. The issue with the warnings sounds really good on paper. The
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The thing is, the one who has the most money is going to get this warning court.
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win.
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Warning costs money.
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Of course, if I'm successful in admonishing someone, they'll have to pay the lawyer's fees.
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If I haven't done this successfully, I will continue to have legal fees until
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on the court case.
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If I then win, I can of course repeat the money.
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If I can't repeat the money, I'll sit on it first and then I'll have
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When I get a title. Man, man's notice, 30 years time,
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Get me the money back. But first I have to go to the prepayment and that's
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A lot of costs. Depending on what it is about, a few thousand can come together.
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That's why this admonition thing is a damn expensive matter for the admonitioner and for the admonished.
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You can see it with the streamer KevinITS, who now has to do with the Hüttenhospital from Dortmund,
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where every little thing is admonished by the lawyers and who receives an admonition almost daily,
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That's just in the 10, in the 20, no,
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They are already so
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to the 100,000 Euros that are spent there
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will be.
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The hospital can afford it.
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He depends on donations. And
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If you look at it like this, look at it like this.
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Something like that with Shoyoka, KuchenTV, Tobias Huch, Carina Pusch, all sitting on their bills,
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which they have towards Shoyoka, because Shoyoka cannot necessarily serve this financially,
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What has come together to warn, and where does it stop the semolina procedures?
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lost. And guess what Frank did to the TV chest now. He has
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Reminds the first critic. It has been pointed out in a live that this is now,
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So sooner he would have stopped if he took legal action in front of someone, that's still in the livestreams
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He goes straight to the lawyer and does it. Yeah, that's really such a move.
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because in the past they met at the Gamescom behind Hall 8 and
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Then personally clarified. Not that the humidity has flown. Okay, back then, with a ban on dancing
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And Scrooge and Orange Orange just happened that they knocked each other a little bit. But
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Ordinarily people have met there and have civilized or even a
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A little bit louder these things just clarified and then this dispute was just out of the world.
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I miss that time. I think that's become such a circumstance that you just run to the lawyer
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And that's by lawyer's rule. That's tough. Above all, the only right beneficiaries
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of this matter are the lawyers who, on the one hand, may be enforcing your right
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and, on the other hand, produce a huge pile of costs. It's not cool! Before
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All things, if you then, so that you get your right enforced, first come in advance
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I need you to get your rights enforced. And that's not just the lawyer's fees,
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These are also the court fees and the court wants to have its money. And then
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You can run after it for 30 years in the hope that one day you will
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Money comes that I stop, if I then regularly commission the bailiff,
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Which costs money again, repeat the coal to me. I don't know if that's in the sense
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The inventor is. My hair would fall out if I had all this stress and so on.
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So as you can see, that's a pretty, as I say, dynamic affair. Why
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Have we started with this criticism? We have always had contributions from the
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TV treasure Trüber and the family
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I saw Wollny. The whole thing has come
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After all, Sarah is also in contact with the
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She had a daughter from the family and
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We also watched the livestreams.
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Livestream for the first time
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Frank showed up and we
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We had only really had the feeling that the young woman had a lot of rights.
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She was, and still has, compassion for him.
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But if you had been dealing with it a little longer, you just realized,
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how impulse-driven it is and is in no way able to reflect its behavior
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And that there are really bad things.
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And you can see that in the recent past,
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if then really hateful on people with the finger is shown in stories on Instagram
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It is almost ridiculed,
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That's why the video, which the Frank has warned, is gone.
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And then with the question "Well, where is it?" and so on.
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Because of these wickednesses, which the young woman had put on the day all along in the past,
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The sympathy is almost unbeaten with us.
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And then we had asked ourselves, how could it be that someone would go and support her like that?
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And if you had looked at all this, then you had noticed that of course the click-through rates, which are high by my standards,
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but for his circumstances low click-through rates on the content he had otherwise made, except
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It was about some trash TV formats. But so hold the retro TV stuff, what then just bad
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If you clicked, it was 10 times higher. And then he started,
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stop often with the Wollny daughter to make content and has done so,
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That there was a rather unsympathetic taste in it. So the feeling was that
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that this is not a sincere,
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How do I say this now, no authentic sincerity, there was no
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Right interest, but the young woman is only a means and an end
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And that's range. I've also seen that the three videos on YouTube are unlikely.
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They clicked well. So if I usually have 50 views on a podcast episode, then
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The top. Then you can say "wow" and maybe a comment. It can be said,
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that on average so 1200 views, one has more, the other has less, are and say
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Roundabout 50 to 70 comments. And there you just see, that's going, that's going, that's interested
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the people. As Frank himself had said, when you see that something works,
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Then you do it more. And yes, that's true. I could do with the output that Frank had.
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I could go at least twice a week with my girlfriend.
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Do a podcast for at least an hour. There would be enough material,
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ironic, sarcastic analysis and questioning.
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Whether we want to do that is another question. And if I want to invest so much time there.
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Surely there will be a lot to come in the future, but whether this is now in two weeks,
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Three or next week or the day after tomorrow, I don't know. It depends on whether we want to
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have. You have to look at all this stuff somehow. And as I said,
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That's a lot. Yes, now I'm actually wandering away from one thing,
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What I wanted to tell you. Now I have to think about what that was.
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I don't know anymore. To come back to it again,
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So to break it down again, I mean, I'm kind of taking it here now
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40 minutes to go.
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We do this for the fun of it.
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No money is earned here.
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This is just for fun.
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Contrary to that, it still costs money.
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The server's deployments for the podcast to run, and the blog.
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Content delivery networks cost money.
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once for the podcast, once for the media files on the blog or for the podcast,
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Because everything that is images and so, comes from the one Content Delivery Network.
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It all costs money. It doesn't cost money, but it does cost money.
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And I'm not advertising.
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There is a possibility of support, but this is not advertised in the formats.
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Something pops up on the blog at some point. "Hey, you can support us," but that's with a
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Click and then it's gone. And you can subscribe to all this on YouTube, the podcast,
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This blog and it's all free. There's no idea behind it any money
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earning. This is almost a hobby and of course we are happy when something is heard,
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What we do. I think that's the way a lot of people do things. It doesn't matter,
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Whether it's music now or whether I'm writing lyrics now, doing podcasts, making videos. When you do something
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you want to be noticed and that's why I can understand
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You also need to do something that works. But I'm not going to do all of my
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Output to align things with it. It's also the case that I'm on the blog
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Psychological issues around certain diseases are read more like
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other things. But I do others, too.
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publish more private texts there, with small stories, even with
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Psychology, but it's essential
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More private than just an explanation
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of depression, for example.
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Now you have to relativize it.
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I always ask myself, if you act in such a way and are so careful, how the external perception is,
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whether all this is not difficult, the train of thought is not good if you are so careful,
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What is the external impact, the question arises, why is this so? And then we're back
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At the point where we were at the very beginning, that already has narcissistic features. If this is a no-name podcast,
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such a no-name YouTube channel as Schrottfunk can trigger it so hard that a person can
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In six livestreams at least four times, i.e. in four livestreams.
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of six to talk about it and stop teasing.
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I mean, the hottest thing had been, as it was said, we would also be on appearances
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Let's go. And there we were on very thin ice, because then he asked his wife if she
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I would have watched a video of us. And we were told, hey, you look like shit. The good
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Yeah, we just know we suck.
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Look at me and you can't
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insulting. If I don't say now
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It would have been that with them already
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scalp grows through the hair, then
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It would be an insult and I
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I have to be careful that I am in the
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Not a letter from the lawyer anytime soon.
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The lawyer gets a warning. So this is purely hypothetical, so that this time between us
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The prayer sisters remain. I think it's a very bad idea to go and attack
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They see it as the best defense. For me, the rectal digital editions are fun. I see something and
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comment on it. And for the vain listener I show in places clearly to certain
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Points that are very noticeable. What he does with it is something else. There can be yes
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Each draws its own conclusions. But I may even point to it
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overly clear, so with luminous neon shield and wobbly bubis or something, so that it then stops
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We all need to stay in space now. I find it really sad,
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that he sees himself so compelled to react when such small people with so little reach
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They make their Coca-Lores. Hey, we're doing this for fun. And I think for fun, I got serious.
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Ernst is now three years old and plays in the back of the garden. That, I think, is the quintessence.
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So now we have made almost 50 minutes such a trip here. I mean, I had to
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Explain something to people who aren't doing what's going on. And I've been in the last
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Time put in a lot of livestreams, a lot of videos and that's a lot of strange stuff.
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Bubble, so everything there is about the TV protection rest, whether they are supporters or haters,
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This is a very strange bubble. And I'm so glad that I have so many other
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I have things in my life that I can deal with that aren't just my own.
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It is the purpose of life. There are AI songs made, where you can then talk about different actors within
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This cosmos is blaspheming. Then former opponents or enemies, allies,
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Talk about alliances. That's really funny. And they feel in places, so there it is
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mainly so male actors in this bubble, very important and so that they deserve it,
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to be perceived.
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Yes, there are some women
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Much smarter. Yes,
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I think that's a good conclusion.
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I just realized that I
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Get a dry mouth and now
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Better take a break.
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In any case, I would like to thank you for
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You are waiting for it again. I'm sorry this has become such a long issue.
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Normally I try to stay under 30 minutes, but I had
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Some things to explain as well. Let me have a look.
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Otherwise, I'll say until next time. Goodbye, Sasha.
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In this digression, I dismantle the mechanics of ‘YouTube-Beef’ – a phenomenon that is far more than just drama for entertainment. I go into the question of where legitimate criticism stops and when it turns into mere hate. In doing so, I look at the role of cryptic meta-messages intended only for a small circle of initiates, while the general public often remains in the dark. Particularly exciting: Haters often turn out to be the most loyal viewers – watching every video, organising watch parties, sifting through content for the smallest details, and engaging in meticulous fact-hunting that ironically adds extra reach.
But it doesn't stay with viewer dynamics. I'm also talking about warning culture as an escalation stage: Why do some creators prefer to resort to legal action rather than dialogue – and what actually triggers such action? In addition, there are indirect calls for action à la ‘man muss mal …’, which, although superficially non-binding, can have a clear impact on the community.
Another focus is on the fragile ego of many creators in the field of tension between authenticity and reach. When click numbers become a measure of self-worth, conflicts arise that often have more to do with hurt pride than with content-related debate. I show why it is not enough in this world to call for ‘media literacy’ – real critical competence is needed: the ability to categorise, evaluate and use criticism constructively without losing oneself in exchange for blows or in the role of victim.
In the end, the realization remains: Reach is not a free pass for Häme, but a responsibility – and serenity can often be the most effective antidote to the permanent beef.
Topic overview of the episode:
1. Entry & occasion
- Why YouTube beef is more than just entertainment
- Personal Observations from the Creator Bubble
2. Criticism vs. hate
- Criteria for constructive criticism
- When irony turns into hustle and bustle
- Examples of fair and unfair reactions
3. The hater logic
- Why Haters Are Often the Most Loyal Spectators
- Watchpartys, Fact-Hunting & obsessive watching
- The paradoxical relationship between rejection and attachment
4. Meta-messages & cryptics
- Subtweets, allusions and insider notes
- Zero added value for the general public
- How cryptic communication creates dynamics
5. Group mechanisms
- WhatsApp groups, screenshots & distribution channels
- Reinforcement through social networks
- Why Collective Outrage Is So Stable
6. Abmahnkultur
- Warnings as an escalation strategy
- Costs, risks and side effects
- Why legal action rarely de-escalates
7. Indirect calls for action
- "One would have to …" – subliminal calls
- Responsibility of creators towards the audience
- Boundaries between opinion and incitement
8. Range & Ego
- When numbers become the measure of identity
- The balancing act between escalation and respect
- Personal attitude to reach and criticism
9. Hobby instead of business
- Why this format remains free of monetization printing
- The Value of Independence
- Authenticity as a guideline
10. Conclusion: Criticism competence
- What It Takes to Classify Criticism
- Serenity as an antidote to the permanent beef
- Plea for constructive discourse
Note/disclaimer
This episode contains personal assessments and examples from publicly visible online dynamics. No legal advice.
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Date of admission: 16.08.25
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