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Hello and welcome to the diversion.
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Where I occasionally deviate from the subject.
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Hmm.
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Today's theme is inspired by a video I saw of the Carina Push on TikTok.
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That was kind of a third-party exploitation of a stream, what they did,
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a video about toxic masculinity, suicide and many other topics.
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femicide.
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I didn't watch the entire video, just the TikTok and
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Yes, there were a few questions left unanswered.
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She looked at this together with Freiraum Re,
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A woman on the move in this phenomism bubble
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and at that time was also fat with a streamer Sojoka,
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which also has phenemistic content and has topics such as violence against women and femicide.
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I was quite surprised by the comments in this video.
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because otherwise I'm Carina Pusch as someone who is extremely reflective,
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I've always watched and watched her videos about Pride Month.
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then had their discussion with ApoRed and then had also reported on other topics,
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which were up-to-date in this YouTube streamer scene,
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It was always about assaults by men on women.
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This was all discussed in the format "limit value" in the podcasts with MTC,
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What happened there and she made really good videos for it,
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which were really covered with sources, where I also thought so,
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Hey, that's really good what she's doing.
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But in this video, in this livestream, I really liked a few things where I thought,
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No, I can't do that.
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Because there are such statements as that even men choose the more radical methods when they commit suicide.
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and which are more effective, such as shooting safely, hanging or jumping in front of a bus or jumping in front of a train
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And that they always involve the guilty.
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That may be, the statistics clearly show that men choose safe methods like women.
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Women prefer to take pills or get poisoned elsewhere.
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But in such a way that death has a more pleasant form than hanging or shooting yourself or throwing yourself in front of a train.
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What I have felt so extremely strange and also as crass,
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As Freiraum Reh said, of course, that even men hurt women.
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And I find that the aspect of someone committing suicide in an absolute emergency situation,
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this is an absolute exceptional situation and then does not necessarily always act carefully.
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Of course, there are also often suicide attempts, which are more or less just a cry for help.
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and where it is then put on the fact that one is still found in time.
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But there are also those who are successful without much announcement, without anything being left behind.
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And these are exceptional situations in which this person finds himself.
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And I find it extremely reprehensible to then still judge,
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A woman's suicide has a different value than a man's suicide.
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I mean, we're talking about people who want to take their own lives or take their own lives.
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And that's one thing I've been thinking about for two or three weeks now, and I've been asking myself,
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Do you want to talk about it or something? Yeah, I'm talking about that now.
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I don't want to start here, be the big statistician here,
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But women are more likely to be helped if they are in a depression like men.
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They are more likely to go to the doctor, they are more able to talk about it.
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That there is this depressive mood or depressive episode.
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Or again, a recurrent depressive episode.
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Men are generally bad doctors.
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So you usually go to the family doctor first, talk about it and he says,
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You, I'll get you a transfer. Ideally, some family doctors will also try to treat it with the antidepressants.
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What I feel is totally reprehensible because depression is a potentially deadly condition.
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Even if that doesn't seem like it at first, it can lead to death.
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And there should already be people who are off the shelf. They are psychiatrists, specialists in psychiatry.
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However, women are more capable than men.
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Luckily, I was raised to be very communicative, otherwise I wouldn't do all the podcast projects.
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I also learned to talk about my feelings.
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I'm not so grateful to my parents for not showing me such a toxic male image.
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But that you just talk about it and that you've been taught that it's okay if you're sad, that you're crying too.
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I had had a period in my life when I was so depressed that I couldn't cry.
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I was actually envious of people who can cry because crying is a great outlet for getting rid of emotions.
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Yes, in any case, I have just in my depressive phase, which really went five years and I had several hospital stays,
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Sometimes it took me more than 12 weeks, I was able to seek help, accept help and learn a lot about myself.
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I mean, that all ended up later in a borderline diagnosis, which I had to fight for a lot, by the way,
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Because I've had a lot of other diagnoses around my ears, but I've never really found myself there.
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You have to say that I had always been someone who was very well read and I was also interested in the topic,
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As far as psychics are concerned, otherwise I would not have studied psychology until a few years ago, as a second and third degree.
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Yeah, now I'm back again. In any case, I have not found myself in this diagnosis, which they have called me
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And then I kept saying, no, I don't see myself there, I feel more drawn to it.
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And I was also told that I had read the symptoms until I was in a psychosomatic rehab.
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And they said, no, that's clearly Borderline, what they have.
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I am grateful that I was able to communicate this and that my suicide attempts were such that they were not successful, otherwise I would not be here today.
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Of course, I could have looked forward to life events such as stroke, but this gave me the opportunity and the time to start studying again.
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I was able to go and start these projects, the blog, the podcast and that I have the time to live my life like this,
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Even though I am now financially extremely miserable.
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But this is another topic, which I have also discussed before, in a different format, most likely in borderline.
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Welcome back to the podcast, to the video of Carina Pusch and Freiraum Reh.
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I've seen the video several times now, I'll pack it in the show notes below and I'm just as shocked every time,
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In fact, it's the suicide of a man who's still being misrepresented.
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I mean, if someone goes there and deliberately drives the car on the highway wrong, so that he is a ghost driver and then puts other people at risk,
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Then that's not all right.
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If the person begins assisted suicide, and I don't mean euthanasia, but stop, let's say, he takes hostage and pretends to be shot in the process,
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then this is also dramatic, because other people are affected and are most likely also affected in their mental health.
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However, these are exceptions.
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I can still remember that I had a fellow patient who was a caregiver himself, just like me, we talked.
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And he didn't give me the impression that he wanted to do anything to himself.
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And he just had insulin at home because he and his wife were both diabetic, and then he killed himself with the insulin.
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Yes, of course I was shocked because we were jokingly talking about it in our conversation.
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For a long time I was also responsible for the fact that I put him on the idea for the first time.
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And I also did not let myself be told, due to his nursing activities, that he came up with the idea himself.
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I felt guilty for myself for a long time.
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And then you realize on your own that it's a suicide of a person and it doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman.
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I can understand that we live in a masculine world where the position of the belt is made after a man,
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where the room temperature in large offices is calculated according to a formula for an average man and his heat demand,
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Medications are only tested on men because they don't have a cycle.
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And with many other things, that it is always on man or if it is then times for a woman, then a small man is taken.
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Yes, we have a world where it's mostly about men.
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But without women, humanity will not exist and I have not only been educated communicatively,
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But also in the knowledge and belief that men and women are equal.
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Of course, there are certain differences in thinking and acting and also in biology.
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But on the whole and bottom line, men and women are equal.
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My parents taught me that.
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There have been many conversations about the fact that there is a gender cup when it comes to pay.
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On average, women earn 20 percent less than men in the same job, under the same conditions.
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And that this is always justified. You could get pregnant.
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I know from an aunt of mine who is highly qualified that the long time had a problem finding a job,
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because old, white men had problems with a young woman who is more qualified than she is being able to take her job away.
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I know all about these problems.
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But my education and my reality of life is different.
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For example, I'm doing the budget here.
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My girlfriend supports me in this. She does other things for that.
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She goes shopping for it, which I can't do now due to my disability from my stroke.
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She then helps me with other activities here in the household.
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But most of it, like cooking food, doing laundry, that's what I do.
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She carries the laundry from the washing machine to the clothesline.
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Then I'll sit down and hang her up.
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This is a give and take.
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It's not like I'm thinking, oh God, I'm doing all this alone, oh God, oh.
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But we are there on an equal footing and we respect our limitations and weaknesses,
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On the other hand, we accept the strengths.
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That's one thing where I always think, what must these people or these women have experienced,
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It's so feminist that it's almost militant.
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This is the equivalent of the militant vegan,
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which in the most extreme way tries to impose its veganism in the world
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and really chooses methods that are not socially accepted,
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It's more of a borderline.
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And that's exactly what makes the space, i.e. the woman Freiraum-Re.
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It can't be that all the worse in the world,
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All the displeasure she has, it's all projected onto men,
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that in a situation where there is a man and sees no other way out,
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to end the suffering with his suicide.
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I wonder where is the empathy?
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Where is humanity?
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Yes, I could talk in rage for hours and think about it.
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I think it's fantastic that Carina Pusch and also Freiraum-Re were in Brussels,
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have stood up for women's rights in the European Union at the Parliament and there,
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Because we still have a lot to do.
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We are there at the very beginning, that there is always a reconnaissance work,
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where there are still weaknesses in our system as far as women's rights are concerned.
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As well as explaining that rape in marriage
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until a few years ago was still impunity and that certain CDU deputies,
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but also FDP deputies and candidates for chancellor have insisted,
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Rape in marriage is not a crime.
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By the end of the 1970s, the woman had to ask her husband if she could go to work.
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And if he said, "No," that was enough.
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That he called at work and said my wife isn't coming to work anymore.
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My mother, if my father had done that, she would have packed her bag and run away.
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My mother is anything but a feminist.
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My mother actually still has a relatively traditional family image,
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What she has in her head, what a woman must be able to do.
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Nevertheless, I have been raised with the fact that man and woman are equal.
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But I believe that the demands that she makes on herself, she also has on other people.
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Just as a young man has to deal with a drill and also knows how to paint walls,
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So she also expects a woman to be orderly and clean.
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When I look around in my circle of acquaintances, sometimes that's just not the case.
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And there it is the men who are more orderly and purer than the women.
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And on the other hand, you have women who are so skilled in craftsmanship,
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The man doesn't need to do anything because the woman does it.
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With my sister in the marriage, it had been so,
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that all technical problems, be it with the mobile phone, with the TV, with the laptop,
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That's because she did it and not my brother-in-law or my ex-brother-in-law, but she did it.
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He did other things for that.
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And then someone comes here and says that the socialist man is violent
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Even then, he still hurts women.
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That makes me so angry and so speechless because I was in this situation myself
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I really didn't want to endanger anyone else.
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Jo, I think I've said it all now.
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I'm also deviant again, that's good, because it's also called deviance.
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And if you feel like it, listen to other formats from me or other digressions
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Say thank you and see you next time.
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Goodbye, Sasha.
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Description:
In this episode of ‘deviation’, Sascha dives deep into a controversial topic inspired by a Video from Carina Push and Freiraumreh. The video raises a variety of socially relevant questions, ranging from toxic masculinity and suicide to femicide. Sascha critically questions the statements and perspectives presented in this video, in particular the way male and female suffering is assessed differently.
Sascha shares personal experiences from his own past, including his challenges in dealing with depression and his journey to self-awareness. This openness gives a deep human touch to the discussion and encourages reflection on issues such as empathy, gender equality and the need for a balanced perspective.
This episode is a must for all who are willing to reflect on the complexity of human behavior and social structures and to open themselves to a differentiated view. Listen in and let yourself be inspired and challenged by Sascha's world of thoughts!
@thestoryteller112 In this clip, @carinapusch and @freiraumreh talk about how patriarchy affects not only women, but also men. #carinapusch #puschart #carinapuschclip #carinapuschtwitchclip #freiraumreh #free space rehclip #open space rehtwitch clip
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Topic overview:
- Introduction and Inspiration
Presentation of the theme and inspiration through a TikTok video by Carina Pusch. - Controversial statements about suicidality and masculinity
Discussion on the presentation of suicide methods and the criticism of Freiraum Re's statements. - Reflecting on your own experiences
Sascha shares his personal experiences with depression and suicidal thoughts as well as the struggle for a correct diagnosis. - Social expectations and gender roles
Consider inequalities in society, from workplace culture to pay. - The Difference Between Constructive Feminism and Extremism
Critical analysis of the statements of Freiraum Re and the importance of empathy and humanity. - The Influence of Education on Gender Perceptions
Sascha reflects on his upbringing and the impact on his perspective on gender issues. - Final Thoughts and Invitation to Discussion
Summary of the key messages and call on the listeners to continue to deal with these topics.
Links to the issue:
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Date of admission: 01.09.24
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